New to recording Jazz...suggestions?

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  1. SWhite

    SWhite Active Member

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    Hey guys,
    I'm new to the forum, and I predominantly record rock/metal bands but I've recently asked by an acquaintance to record is his jazz group (Instrumentation: drums, bass, piano, tenor sax).

    I'm running PT 8, using an 8-pre interface and have pretty good mics, but i've been using a lot of drum replacement software thats been getting me good results

    any advice on things I should be aware of, such as techniques that differ from those one would use recording rock, or any other info would be much appreciated

    Thanks
     
  2. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

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    The most important thing to determine is what kind of drummer you have. A real old school jazzer is better off with two overheads and a room mic. A fusion drummer can be miced like a rock drummer. Which is it?

    URB or electric? What kind of piano? What kind of room is available?
     
  3. SWhite

    SWhite Active Member

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    thanks for your input. they're playing jazz standards. hes more of an old school drummer, and I don't have the greatest room to work with (my basement) so i've close mic'd the drums. the bassist is using a mix of upright and electric. not quite sure how to record the upright although he said it has a pickup so I can always fall back on that. the piano is a midi controller and i'm using an NI instrument plugin for the sounds.
     
  4. Herbeck

    Herbeck Active Member

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    Software pianos could be a problem if you want a natural sound.
    Often heavily panned bass left treble right, and the piano seems to be allover the place.


    Cheers,

    Herbeck
     
  5. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

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    You'll want a LDC for the upright. A pickup just doesn't do a nice bass justice. If you need to close mic then level with and 12" from the f hole and angle the mic up whatever degree to aim at the shoulder.
     
  6. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

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    My preference for the drums would be something like the Glyn Johns method. If the room was good I'd be up for two overheads and a room mic.

    On the URB I agree with John on a LDC pointed at the f hole. But you can also try a dynamic - RE20, SM7, even an SM57. If he wants a lot of string on the fret board sound try a SDC pointed up from the bridge to the neck. You can use foam to hold the mic IN the bridge for this.

    For the sax I like ribbon mics. A Sennheiser 441 is another common choice. About the length of the body away from the sax pointed at the middle of the body - not the bell.

    As usual, YMMV. Experiment.
     
  7. SWhite

    SWhite Active Member

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    Thanks a lot for the advice, had good results with the Glyn johns today on the drums. and got a good sound from the bass with an mxl 990 a sm57
     

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