new to recording please help.

Discussion in 'Microphones (live or studio)' started by trojanso9, Jan 9, 2006.

  1. trojanso9

    trojanso9 Guest

    Hi, i am fairly new to recording. i purchased an Mbox 2 and a few marshall mic's and i am pretty experienced in pro tools. i have questions about recording though.

    what is a good tube mic preamp at a fair price, to get for excellent quality? does the mic preamp connect through my mbox to use?

    what is a good way to get a really proffessional recorded drum sound. i will eventually be buying microphones and a mixer for drums. but how do i get that "studio sound"? do i plug the mixer into a pre-amp?

    i started tracking some guitars and stuff to see would it sounded like and it just doesnt have the studio sound that i really want. how can i improve the sound of the instruments?

    anyone who can fill me in a would greatly appreciate it. thanks so much!
  2. pr0gr4m

    pr0gr4m Well-Known Member

    Feb 9, 2005
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    Welcome to RO. You may want to post any further inquiries in the Home/Project Studio section in the future as you'll find everyone there has the same type of questions and you're likely to get better answers.

    Ok. You want a pre-amp that has "excellent quality" for a "fair price". look at a starting price of at least $900 for a new one. You can get quality pre-amps for less than that, but they are generally bundled together in a set of 4 or 8, like API's or something similar.
    As for a recommendation, try a UA M-610. They have a new model out called the Solo 610. I've never heard it but it sells for about 200 bucks cheaper. From there, the price just goes up.

    If that price is out of your range, you may want a "good quality" mic pre. The Groove Tubes Brick is a pretty damn good pre and can be had anywhere between 300 and 400 bucks.

    That I don't know. I know the Mbox has 2 mic inputs...but I don't know if you can bypass the internal preamp.

    First let me hit you with a bit of reality. You have an Mbox2 and your just starting out. You don't exactly have the equipment or experience to bust out an amazing drum track. It requires a combination of equipment, knowledge and talent. There is no straight answer to this.

    You can do some good stuff with the Mbox but with drums it helps to have each drum separated. That will be hard to do since you can only record two tracks at once. So you will be running all the drums through a mixer then to the Mbox and once recorded, you're pretty much stuck with what you've got. Dont expect to have the greatest drums in the world. Just get the best that you can.

    The mixer probably will have preamps for each channel. You'll most likely use those.

    Again, equipment, experience and knowledge. Trial and error. Don't expect to record a grammy winning record right away.

    You say "studio sound" a lot. That can mean drastically different things. For guitars do you want an Iron Maiden sound or a Robert Fripp sound? For drums you want John Bonham or Phil Collins? Be a bit more specific in your requests and we'll have more of an idea of how to answer your questions. BUT...Before you go off and fill up the forum with 1000 questions, use the search function. Many questions that you will have have already been answered. There is tons of suggestions, hints, and instruction from the experience and knowledgable people here at RO.

    And last but not least, GOOD LUCK!
  3. trojanso9

    trojanso9 Guest

    thank you very much it is very helpfull.

    i understand about the drum situation but what i meant was types of mics that i should get for drums. i was looking into sm57's cause they are fairly cheap and have great reviews. but say i used the a condenser mic for the bass drum will it effector damage the mic?

    So im getting the whole pre-amp thing now also. so i just run the pre-amp directly to my computer?

    Also, further down the road when i begin getting more serious, what can replace the mbox 2. what i mean is what kind of interfaces would people recomend.

    there is so many other questions i have about mixing and recording tracks but i do not want to keep nagging everyone.

    thanks for all your help!
  4. trojanso9

    trojanso9 Guest

    oo and what i meant by studio sound for guitars and drums are like the sounds you hear in my bands recordings form the studio we went to

    i want to be able to know the drums were studio recorded, i dont want them to sound like garbage cans, i dont know if that explained alot.

    and i want my guitars to just sound really compressed and crisp, if that makes much sence

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