Order of Effects - PTLE

Discussion in 'Mixing & Song Critique' started by ErinSmith, Jul 6, 2004.

  1. ErinSmith

    ErinSmith Guest

    I am recording my Flugelhorn in my home studio.

    Once I get a good sound (right now I am using my MD 421) is there an order for applying effects?

    I am not sure what to start with. I would guess EQ first . . .after that ?????????

    As a jazz player, I hate to say this but for this song I need to get a Rick Braun or Chris Botti type sound.

    Thanks for helpin' the NOOB.

  2. Ben Godin

    Ben Godin Active Member

    Jun 5, 2004
    Charlotte, NC, USA
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    the general order is EQ then compress.

    EQ settings for Flugelhorn (or horns in general)...

    50-150Hz Add bottom
    150-250Hz Add body
    250-800Hz Muddyness area
    1-6kHz crunchyness
    6-8kHz Clarity
    8-12kHz Brightness

    Be careful, remember that the final judge are your ears

    Compressor settings...

    Hmm... it depends on the mic, but i would say

    ratio 8:1
    threshold -14db
    attack 2ms
    release 10ms

    Hope this helps you with production of your fantastic instrument :!:
  3. johnthemiracle

    johnthemiracle Active Member

    Jul 26, 2004
    vienna, austria
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    it's just as valid to say that the general order is compress then eq.
    there is no rule. do whatever works for you. in fact, the compressor might diminish the effect of the eq to a certain extent.

    and i wouldn't want to sqash my flugelhorn with 8:1. even though i don't play flugelhorn...try 2:1 or 3:1
  4. EricK

    EricK Guest

    I don't know about those settings. First of all, it is totally useless to give a threshold setting wighout knowing what kind of track levels we are dealing with. A threshold of -14db won't do any good if the track was recorded with lots of headroom.

    An 8:1 ratio seems pretty heavy handed, maybe 4:1 would be a better starting point. Finally, a 10ms release is incredibly fast, I would not recommend that at all. Release needs to be much longer. Anywhere from 100-500ms.

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