out of phase cables

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  1. ThirdBird

    ThirdBird Active Member

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    Is it possible to wire cables out of phase? For instance on the use of top and bottom of a snare.

    Are there any other cheap alternatives without changing inside of a DAW?
     
  2. kmetal

    kmetal Kyle P. Gushue Well-Known Member

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    yes solder the pins of an xlr cable out of phase.
     
  3. bouldersound

    bouldersound Real guitars are for old people. Well-Known Member

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    Polarity, not phase. Swap the wires going to pins 2 and 3 on one end of an XLR cable (mark the cable). Or click the polarity button on the channel controls of your DAW.
     
  4. ThirdBird

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    Right, polarity, not phase. I need the cable because I don't have enough tracks for what I want to do, and the polarity needs to be switched before going in the box.
     
  5. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

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    I tend to recommend using standard cables and a polarity change adaptor. That way, you know all your cables are the same.

    PS I promise not to comment on the description of the item in that link.
     
  6. bouldersound

    bouldersound Real guitars are for old people. Well-Known Member

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    I like the ones with a switch so I can quickly compare the results.

    Just last night before reading this thread I recorded a kit with a 421 under the snare and just the overheads getting the top. I time aligned the snare to the overheads as well as inverting polarity for a much fatter sound. The difference in arrival times between top and bottom snare mics is much less and probably not enough to worry about. The sound from the top and bottom of the snare is so different that it may not be coherent enough for polarity to make a big difference, especially if you high pass the bottom mic.
     

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