Out of Phase?

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Rattlesnake_Suitcase, Apr 24, 2005.

  1. I'm thinking of buying a Yamaha MG16/4 mixer for my small home studio. In the manual it states that the channel inserts are out of phase with the rest of the outputs on the board. If I were to use the inserts as direct outs to an 8 track for guitars, vocals etc, and use the sub outs (which are 180* out of phase) for the drums, would there be phasing issues on the recording if I were to record a live session? My understanding is that there shouldn't be problems unless the drums mics pick up a lot of guitar/vocals, and vice-versa. Please tell me if I'm wrong!
     
  2. Just mod your cables if their out of phase.
     
  3. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

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    That's hard to do with an unbalanced insert send ... You could do that with the bus sends a lot easier.

    But the scenario Rattlesnake Suitcase discribed in your post shouldn't present a problem ...

    This is why the better consoles and mic pres have phase flips ..
     
  4. Thanks, looks like I'll buy the board. Hope it will be a good and cheap starting-point for recording. Oh and BTW has anyone on the board used this mixer? What were your general thoughts/impressions.
     
  5. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

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    We have one in our live rack.It is clean and the pres are the best I've ever heard for $200 as well as the EQ.It sounds better than any Mackie I've used(several)...The controls feel much more expensive than they are and it has held up well in the +8 months we've used it....fairly extensively.All in all a 'best buy'...
     
  6. Thanks Kurt for pointing out my mistake :) . I misread and when I posted I thought he only said direct outs (which did sound weird to me).
     

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