PT-LE users who use hardware effects in their rig - HELP!

Discussion in 'Mixing & Song Critique' started by Digger, Feb 26, 2006.

  1. Digger

    Digger Guest


    I want to incorporate some of the hardware components that I own with my PT-LE rig but I am find that dealing with delay compensation annoying and time consuming.

    I know other DAWs have native delay comp and it is also part of PT-HD.

    How do fellow LE users deal with delay compensation and latencies that occur when using external hardware?

    Please be specific; how do you specifically determine the latency amounts? How do you specifically adjust your tracks accordingly? etc...

  2. Kev

    Kev Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    I usually use TDM/HD for mixing

    but while recording, if I must use an external on an LE system
    I'll commit to audio and then bump to the original position by sight

    " ... annoying and time consuming ... "
    I often do it the same way even on TDM/HD
    these and other habits were form way back in the beginning of DAW's
    and have served me well

    I know this is not the answer you want to hear.
  3. citrusburst

    citrusburst Member

    Jun 9, 2004
    Hey Digger,

    Kev is right, ultimately. At the end of the day, you will want to bounce your tracks through the outboard gear, then line them up by sight.

    However, a quick and dirty trick you can use (I use it regularly) while getting settings down is the following:

    Set your hardware buffer size to 1024 samples. Pick the track you want to run through outboard hardware. Select all of the regions on that track, go to the "Edit" menu, and select "Shift." Shift earlier by 2048 samples. This won't perfectly compensate, but it will be close enough to do what you need to do.

    Hope that helps.

  4. Digger

    Digger Guest

    Thanks Jed and Kev,

    In a utopian world I guess I was hoping there would be some other answers but I sort of knew I was f@#$ed with LE as far as using externals was concerned.

    Thanks for taking the time to answer , cheers ! !

  5. rhydian

    rhydian Active Member

    Jan 26, 2005
    Southwell, Nottingham, UK


    Have you considered using Powercore or UAD-1. You can use the VST2RTAS wrappers from fxpansion, have access to loads of quality reverbs and compressors, and get delay compensation via their compensation plug ins.

    Amazingly, the waves series of plug ins do not do a compensation variety for the APA devices...... come on waves!

  6. Digger

    Digger Guest

    I actually already have 2 UAD cards but I also have some nifty outboard gear I wouldn't mind seemlessly using! Thanks for the suggestion, cheers!

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