rackmount unit w/ input attenuator

Discussion in 'Mixing & Song Critique' started by Pre Amp, Jan 14, 2006.

  1. Pre Amp

    Pre Amp Guest

    Does anyone have, or can anyone recommend, a unit that already has an attenuator on it?

    I did a google search and found this post. You will have to scroll up to the top of the page to start reading from the top (sorry for that). http://groups.google.com/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/8c32fc647ed3b7c1/dd236a76d59bdada?q=triggering+from+pre+drum+sounds&rnum=1#dd236a76d59bdada
    They suggested the Roland SDE 3000, or theTC2290.
    Also one guy on the post talks about the "brute force" method of analog drum triggering and the hardships of it.
    Another guy on the same post says "I do it analog all the time with no problem".

    I am trying to trigger drums from pre-existing drum tracks. My problem is that the tigger is re-triggering the kick drum several times, and it sounds like a fake machine gun sound (not a cool sound).

    Kev said to install an attenuator in front of the signal.
    Does anyone have anything to add? This includes you too Kev as well (thanks for all the help so far bro!)
  2. Kev

    Kev Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    not much more than I have already said

    that thread does suggest gates
    and if you do have some Analog Gates lying around ... then do give them a go.

    Drum sound at line level
    Split to Gate and trim for a very gated impulse blip sound ... over gated
    this will remove the cross trigger for other drums ... I hope

    Use the output level control to lower the level to suit the D4 or DMPro
    now the triggers inputs of the above should be happy

    Good gates can sometimes have more control than just the Trigger interface

    I still think a simple DIY interface will do
    20 or 50k pot across pins 2 and 3 of the recorder output
    wipper and say the pin3 connection off to a 6.5 mm phone
    one at a time ... Kick
    trim for just short of Midi level 127 during a midi record.
    this sets the loudest kick into the trigger interface
    now trim the TI for no ghost kicks

    you still get ghosts, it could be all about cross-triggering from toms and snare
    only gates or DAW-gates can solve this.

    The later Drum Triggers do have decent cross-trigger controls ... look in the manual to see if you have this.
  3. Pre Amp

    Pre Amp Guest

    I will get this!
    No matter what. I just have to read and determine which one the get.
    Gate, Attenuator, DIY box or whatever.

    Since I'm still new with the whole "trigger" and "midi" issue. I have another question also.
    When I'm recording the next time, I'm gonna use 2 mics on the kick drum and I'm gonna buy some triggers for the DM Pro.
    When I set up the trigger on the bass drum, how do I record that signal? Does it go directly to my hard drive recorder?

    Reason for asking is because this might keep me from having to deal with this issue in the future.

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