Recording drums on saturday need some help

Discussion in 'Drums' started by punkrocker, Apr 29, 2009.

  1. punkrocker

    punkrocker Guest

    Hey all so I need your help on something. I have the option of A: using some kind of overhead technique and a mic on the ride and hh or B: Close micing all cymbals/ride/hh. The style of music is modern punk/emo stuff. The room is not treated but I do have some rockwool wrapped in fabric propped up around the set. I need a wide stereo spread. If B and not A which micing technique do you suggest? My main concern is if I close mic all cymbals it might sound unnatural with no overheads behind them. Thanks for the help.
  2. IIRs

    IIRs Well-Known Member

    Oct 23, 2005
    I wouldn't recommend close micing all your cymbals: you would just get a mess of comb filtering.

    I suggest you spend some time experimenting with different stereo overhead configurations, and try to find the one that gives you the best balance of the whole kit without any close mics at all. You might not need the ride or hi-hat mics either.
  3. punkrocker

    punkrocker Guest

    Ok cool thanks fo rthe advice. Any recommendations as to which overhead position I should start with? I like spaced pair because of the wide sound but I'm worried about all this phase issue that surronds it. Also, while I'm asking questions, what do you guys suggest I should record at 44.1, 48, 96? Benefits, drawbacks? The searches that I've done seem to indicate that 48/24 is best. Thanks!
  4. IIRs

    IIRs Well-Known Member

    Oct 23, 2005
    You would get more phase issues close micing every cymbal than from a spaced pair of overheads!

    Try the recorderman technique:

    Re resolution: record 24 bit files, but stick to the samplerate you need the final mix at, cos that makes life much easier. ie: if you want to end up with an audio CD use 44.1 but if you plan to end up on a video DVD consider using 48.
  5. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Mar 20, 2008
    currently Billings
    If you are going to CD for end product then there isn't much point to 48 IMO. Stick with 44.1 and multiples thereof. 24 bit all the way though.
  6. RonanChrisMurphy

    RonanChrisMurphy Active Member

    Apr 21, 2009
    Pretty much everything IIRs said is spot on.
  7. MC3DPCS

    MC3DPCS Active Member

    Apr 18, 2007
    I've used a few single point stereo mics as drum overheads with great results. The Rode NT4 is a reasonable cost option. You can find them used in the $300 range, new around $450.
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