Recording Engineer Student looking for advice.

Discussion in 'Microphones (live or studio)' started by sixgroovenine, Oct 16, 2006.

  1. I am a recording engineering student and I'm working on my final two projects before graduation. I am looking for advice on mic selection and techniques. It would be nice to beable to experiment until I find something I like but I would rather get some expert advice first. The style is fast pop punk along the lines of New Found Glory and Green Day. I will be recording the band on either an SSL board or a Sony Oxford. We have some decent outboard gear to play with so even if I don't have specific piece of gear that you recommend I can probably substitute something.

    Here is the mic list so any ideas you have let me know

    AT's - 4033, 4047, 4050, 4060, 4041, 4071a

    AKG's - D112, D660s, SE300B, C414, c535EB, C2000B, C3000B

    Sennheiser - 421 ,E604


    SE - 1A, 2, 3, 2200A, 3300A, 5600A, Gemini, R-1

    We have multiple of each. Any help you can send I appreciate it and will remember when I'm out there working.
  2. TVPostSound

    TVPostSound Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    Not to be arrogant, but did the school not teach you mic selection, and placement ???

    List the instruments, and someone will most likely chime in.
  3. Yes...of course.

    Yes they taught us techniques and placement I'm just looking for ideas aimed more towards the sound that I said. Some of the coolest thingss I've found are the little things that might not exactly be the norm. You will hear of everyone using a certain mic or different mics by different people.
  4. Two Guitars - 5150 head and a Marshall
    bass - direct and Amp (not sure)
    drums - house Tama 5 Piece
    vox and BG Vox - I think a SE 5600 on the Vox
  5. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Member

    Sep 26, 2005
    Sure, try this.

    Drum set: bass drum 421, snare drum 421, toms 421, overheads 414's, hat, any of those little AT's.

    Bass guitar: Countrymen FET or SansAmp DI and Beta 52 on the Cabinet.

    Guitars on Marshall's: SM57 and E604.

    Vocals: Beta/SM58, yup, that's right, screw the condensers.

    Put your vocals through a 1176 and track with it.

    Mix vigorously and bake for 8 hours. Mmmmmmm delicious!
    Ms. Remy Ann David
  6. ezride251

    ezride251 Guest

    Want killer drum sounds? In addition to rooms, overheads, and close miking, take a 414 and put it in the top corner of the room above the drummer pointed at the snare (THIS IS CRITICAL) Now squash the ever-living crap out of it to tape. Im talking beyond compression and into limiting, which I know is a bit of a fluid idea but the point here is a lot. (you want it to sound bad) Now after you have a rough mix slowly bring up the fader until you notice the sound start to change. Leave it alone for a few minutes and then mute that channel. You will think someone just let all of the air out of your drum mix.
  7. mark_van_j

    mark_van_j Active Member

    Oct 28, 2005
    Maribor, Slovenia
    NY Compression? :D

    SSL has the free VST plugin called the Listen Mic... or something. Sometimes it works with that same technique, sometimes it doesn't.

    When recording punk, I tend to follow trends. While "hi-end" production was the name a couple of years ago, lately it's all about dirty and vintage. Get a tape machine and abuse it. Get some tubes and bake eggs on them. Get ripped speakers and mic them up. :twisted:

  8. TVPostSound

    TVPostSound Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    Credit Lawrence Horn (Motown) for that trick.
    I use something similar on VO for commercials!!!!

    Mic the drums as stated abovem but dont forget a stereo room configuration.
    Many of my rock recordings, we discarded all close mics, and went only with OHs, and rooms.
  9. Kev

    Kev Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    great advice Remy

    when your young and don't know better
    and you want to pump out some teen angst guitar stuff ... keep it simple and just go for it
  10. SeniorFedup

    SeniorFedup Guest

    wait . your not recording Fate are you?! and if youre in MDC you will be using an AMEK

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