Return to Forever's drum sound

Discussion in 'Drums' started by Consul, Sep 12, 2003.

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  1. Consul

    Consul Guest

    I do believe this is my first new topic started in this section of the RO forums. :)

    I was listening to my CD of the "Romantic Warrior" album by Return to Forever, and I am transfixed by how good the drums sound. Can anyone give me any clues as to how these were tracked and maybe what kit was used (it sounds like birch to me for some reason)?

    Thank you all very much for your time.
  2. launchpad67a

    launchpad67a Guest

    Believe it or not but I have a Video from that tour in '76 (or whenever). It is incredible, I will look and see what he's using.
    That is just evil music, people shouldn't be allowed to be that good ...LOL!!!

    I'll get back to you.

  3. Consul

    Consul Guest

    Thank you muchly, launchpad! Actually, I'm wondering if he might not be using an acrylic kit. Those have that kind of loud, nicely-defined sound to them.
  4. tonio

    tonio Guest

    A good drummer LOL......Lenny White.
  5. Rader Ranch

    Rader Ranch Member

    Feb 14, 2001
    i'm sorta sure tha Lenny White was a Tama endorser at the time. crank that snare and wrinkle those toms!
  6. Consul

    Consul Guest

    Absolutely phenomenal drummer, yes. That album is one of my very favorites to listen to, especially for the drumming and the sound of the drums they got. And thanks for the input, everyone!
  7. launchpad67a

    launchpad67a Guest

    I watched my video very closely and Lenny is playing "Slingerlands". Also the more I think about it, those are the exact sounds of those drums from 1975!! I owned a set from '76, and they are the same drums. Especially the snare, which luckily I held onto, and still play with my DW set. Can't beat that sound, open, slappy and full.
    Ranch Rider wrote about crank the snare (correct) and "wrinkle" the toms, which is actually wrong for the times ('75-80). Everyone played very tight tensioned heads back then and that is really a tribute to good "open room" recording. Let it all hang/ring out. Look at John Bonham, he used 2- U47's in the room and that's It!! Granted a large amount of processing was used but never the less, micing drums with 2 room mics was a common practice in the early 70"s.
    On the Return to Forever video, Lenny uses a snare mic, a kick mic and 2 overheads, thats all.

  8. Consul

    Consul Guest

    Whee! Thanks a lot, Launchpad and everyone else. It certainly is a tribute to the engineers of that recording just how good it is. I guess I'll just have to learn to be that good of an engineer. :) Someday...

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