RMS levels on current rock CDs?

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by J-MADD, Apr 12, 2005.

  1. J-MADD

    J-MADD Active Member

    Aug 19, 2004
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    I am boosting the RMS on my tracks recorded last fall. I put them into soundforge 8 and they were around -22. I boosted them to -12 and that seemed fine. If current CDs are around -6 I don't care cause I'm not gonna squash the life out of these songs. Just wondering what a normal RMS ussually is for rock.

  2. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2002
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    Really depends on the CD. I would say the best RMS is the one you think does the music justice. Sometimes a mix can only go to a certain point, then it just falls apart. What the RMS level is depends on many factors like low end.
  3. Ammitsboel

    Ammitsboel Member

    Aug 12, 2003
    In my experience, everything fall apart or get's severe colored at aprox. -10db RMS

    Maybe I have a more technical view to it? Maybe the artistic version is that some mixes can take it(the added stuff) and some can't.
    It's just my experience that these artifacts will happen at these levels no matter how the mix sound.

    Best Regards
  4. chriscavell

    chriscavell Guest

    Just to make sure we're all on the same page when talking about RMS levels, what's your integration time?

    I find most mixes start noticeably losing their "feel" around -14, and then exhibit an extremely sharp death to all excitement that may have once existed in the track when pushed to around -11. Those are with the old school standard 300 ms integration time iirc.

    (also, is anyone setting a lower limit for the levels included in calculating their averages...I set mine at -55dBfs for most well recorded music...noisier stuff I might set higher to around -45 dBfs.)
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