Discussion in 'Microphones (live or studio)' started by pcrecord, Aug 8, 2017.
I just did a new video and would like your comments :
Well done, but funny too. Obviously the M1 and the SM58 are very close. Certainly to the point that my speakers on my gaming laptop sound so close, I can't call it. GJ Marco .
The M1 has a bit more HF but they perform very similar.
I really like your vids, Mon Ami. You've got a great flair for this!
I'm hard pressed to choose one over the other; from what I heard in the vid, the 58 seems to have a bit more rejection - but as far as quality goes, I'd be more than happy with either.
I guess the question at this point comes down to durability; as everyone knows by now, 58's are built like battleships, LOL.... they can certainly take the rigors of the road. (No pun intended). The Rode may be built just as well - time will tell, Shure mics have the advantage of having been around a long time and have been tested as being tried and true. How does the Rode "feel" to you in comparison to the 58?
No loser in the mic head-to-head.
There's just a bit of upper-mid in the 58 while the Rode is smoother throughout.
You can really hear it on the snare comparisons and the acoustic guitars.
Harmon/Kardon computer speakers never lie!
Nice!! Another cool vid Marco. I love how you did both mics in the full mix to demonstrate how they stack.
Aside from the handling noise, they are both remarkably similar here on my phone/Bluetooth speaker.
That said I prefer the sm58 on everything except the electric guitar, and the high register vocal line. I have always despised the 58 for electric guitar so no surprise there. The upper mid bump works great for vocals, but is always a bit nasally on electric guitars (imho).
I think the 'smoother response' (to use davedogs well put words) suits the higher register vocal and your voice better in this demo.
My Bluetooth speaker lies to me and I don't mind. Sometimes the truth hurts too much. Lol
True. Time will tell if the Rode can withstand the years. I certainly don't feel it's cheap, it's a tinny bit more heavy than the 58.
I also found that the M1 gave a bit more presence to the electric guitar. Altought, It's not said that it'll work for every songs or if a wise EQ curve could make the difference.
Nice Vid Marco ,
First time Ive heard an M1 . I preferred the Rode M1 on both guitars and the 58 on the vocals .The snare I could not tell the difference.
The guitars sounded more focused with less lows in my headphones .
Thanks for the good word Smashh !
Marco, what an excellent job comparing the Shure sm58 to the Rode M1 and thank you for the shout-out!
I'm late to this party lol, I just saw this and loved that comparison. I have to say I liked the M1 all round slightly better but appreciate the better rejection of the 58. They are so close aren't they. The sm58 had a collapsing mid dip compression sound to it. No one else noticed this?It is subtle but it was enough to push the compression mode on my system.
I'm glad I have M1's in my arsenal even more now. I tried an M1 through a Millennia M-2b a few years back and it sounded amazing.
You and your Millennia ! One day I'll get one (I wish) ...
There are Gordon to lust over as well.
Lol... that's because you could hook up a ham sandwich to the Millennia... and it would sound great. I'm not knocking the Rode...just saying that you could probably connect any mic to that pre and be impressed by what it does.
I'm finding the exact same thing to be true with the ISA. I have a couple cheap condensers that I acquired as part of buying out a home studio several years ago, and it's amazing what a great mic pre can do to lower end mics. Yesterday, just for fun, I tracked an acoustic guitar using a StudioElectronics (SE) Cardioid. No features of adjustable patterns...just a no frills condenser. I've never even used it before, it's been up on a shelf in the closet for years now...I connected it to the pre, engaged the 75hz LPF, set the levels and played - and it sounded VERY good. Open, clear, clean. So, it doesn't sound like a Neumann, but it still sounds very good, and would have been totally fine as a track in a 16 track mix. It wouldn't be my choice for just guitar/vocal, but it would sound fine in a mix with other instruments.
I think that when someone who has been using budget level Preamps moves up to a pro level - Grace, Millennia, ISA...there's a huge difference in fidelity; not only on one track, but in a a cumulative way too, if you happen to be overdubbing multiple tracks on a song using the same pre.
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