Safe/Non-Toxic Sound Absorption / Acoustic Treatment

Discussion in 'Acoustics (Live Room, ISO Booths)' started by Unregistered, Mar 21, 2013.

  1. Unregistered

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    Looking to acoustic treat my room. I want to get safe, non toxic acoustic treatment that still has good sound absorption. Looking for the material wise, since different pieces would be used for different frequencies. Want it safe to breath (even if not covered by fabric), also safe in case my dog accidently chews and swallows some. Also safe to handle. Just because you don't notice any health problems from the product doesn't mean they are not harming you. Not a over "safety" guy, just would very much like this stuff to be safe.
    Is all fiberglass out the window?
    Rockwool safe?

    I ran across this stuff called UltraTouch Natural Cotton Insulation.
    UltraTouch Natural Cotton Insulation - Cotton Insulation - BUILDING MATERIALS
    Ultra Touch, Cotton Insulation

    It's claimed to be safe, but I ran across one thread online and someone said the insulation is heavily treated with borates, which is supposedly unsafe, but I am not sure if the harmful stuff is still there to really affect you.
    ultratouch cotton users? different densities? - Gearslutz.com

    Please answer ASAP. Looking to start putting up treatment soon.
     
  2. Randi

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    Also looking for non toxic acoustic foam recommendations but for a different purpose: to insert into a mask housing microphones -- I'm a court reporter using a Talk Tech mask outfitted with a Smart Mic (adjustable) and a condenser mic. TIA
     
  3. Brien Holcombe

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    Here is my simply answer.

    If after all the information available that informs the public that there IS NO NEED TO BE CONCERNED with your health, excluding possible scratchy throat and forearms if you do not use protective clothing, but NO prolonged health concerns otherwise.

    I have talked for hours on this subject and there are papers on this site, recording.org, that Rod Gervias helps to expose this myth that insulation will hurt you, but our words fall on deaf ears of a select few.
    https://recording.org/threads/exposing-the-myths-of-fiberglass.13951/

    To that end, you should purchase store bought factory made treatments because your fear is bigger than your ability to trust professionals in the Industry.
     
  4. dvdhawk

    dvdhawk Well-Known Member

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    @Randi

    I can't imagine there's anything more safe and suitable than what you can get from the Talk Tech web-store.
     
  5. Randi

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    Brien, thanks for the information and especially the link to the thread. As a voice writer, a scratchy throat is a serious problem recognizing that I'm required to dictate at breakneck speeds for hours at a time without a break. Coughing jags often result in having to halt proceedings, wasting parties' financial resources.

    I literally joined this group a few hours ago and I'm dismayed that I've already received an insult, i.e. "your fear is bigger than your ability to trust professionals in the Industry." It wasn't a fear at all, frankly. As a professional, I know when to ask questions of folks with more knowledge and experience than me and that's why I posed the inquiry in this forum. I felt confident that there would be professionals in this group who would be able to make recommendations in that regard.

    I sincerely appreciate your taking the time to address my post. Many thanks!
     
  6. audiokid

    audiokid Chris Well-Known Member

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    Hi Randi, I apologize for his tone (he means well). He really knows no other way to communicate. Kindness and respect towards others is not one of his strong points.
    We value all members and hope that doesn't steer you away.
     
  7. Brien Holcombe

    Brien Holcombe Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the support chris.

    The post I made was directly and clearly to the 5 year old original poster.

    So it was not even in your direction my friend.
     
  8. audiokid

    audiokid Chris Well-Known Member

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    Why don't you just say you are sorry once in a while ?
    I don't care if this thread is 20 years old, the last post was current and you have a terrible attitude. Next thing you will start blaming me for something.

    You should apologize.
     
  9. Brien Holcombe

    Brien Holcombe Well-Known Member

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    You are right chris.

    Forgive me Randi...I just looked at the thread header and the original post and responded based on that information alone.

    It is never my intention to insult.

    I hope this experience will not sway you from trying to find a place here that works for you.

    Maybe in the future...if you can consider this as constructive, you can really help all involved by developing your own thread based on your own wants or needs.

    It is common practice to do that...lol..so do not be afraid of that common practice.

    Again, please know that I was in no way talking to or chastising you for some short coming.
     
  10. JayTerrance

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    Ultratouch didn't work for me, it must have been the borates that bothered me. But I'm also greatly sensitive, so it may work for others. The Ultratouch did work well for the sound treatment however.
     
  11. paulears

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    If you buy any product from a reputable supplier then safety issues are usually controlled by the Laws in the country applicable. Things like asbestos are universally controlled and often banned or severely limited. Fibreglass on the other hand is an irritant and needs sensible control. Foams vary in chemical content. MDF has outgassing issues but builders understand these things. Home builders have two choices. Do your research and make your own mind up or avoid any products you personally cannot live with. I work reasonably in a venue built from asbestos. It's sealed and safe and labelled by a local authority but I know that in the places I route cables there is more grey dust than there should be. There is a risk. I deal with it. What happened here is just the reaction of a professional to a worried amateur showing what perhaps many of us do a mental slap head when we read it. We read doom and gloom and what to us is clearly unsubstantiated worry and doubt being taken too seriously. I totally get it. The media tell us of real dangers and risk. We simply laugh and dismiss it as solid science vastly out of proportion. In my studio is plenty of foam. Quite a few abraded panels thanks to people and equipment. Do I worry? No, not in the least. Do I know what chemicals were in the dust? No. Is my studio safe? Yes. How do I know? Simply because the foam is sensibly sourced. Is ther zero risk? No. Is the risk high or medium? No, it's very low and can be controlled easily by simple housekeeping. Worry more about poor ventilation, dodgy wiring, people with coughs and colds, sharp edges on flight cases, damaged hearing, trapped fingers from heavy doors etc etc. What you are doing is focussing on things very, very low on the risk scale. Looking at my studio, is any of the sound treatment cause for concern? No. Not at all. Your concern is understandable but misplaced in the great scheme of thing! Enjoy your studio and don't worry.
     

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