Selecting song order for final pre-mastering

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by Pez, Mar 3, 2003.

  1. Pez

    Pez Active Member

    Dec 27, 2002
    Any general tips you all use to figure out the best song order when doing your mastering?
  2. joe lambert

    joe lambert Active Member

    Oct 17, 2001
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    Song order is generally determined by the artist, producer and record label. Or some combination of the three.
  3. Doug Milton

    Doug Milton Active Member

    Sep 23, 2002
    While it’s true that the artist, producer and label usually have strong input on song order, I do get asked for input on some sessions. For me, an album should have some kind of logical emotion flow to it (think movie, with beginning, middle and end). Unless you’re going for a drooling schizophrenic listener, you probably don’t want to alternate fast, slow, fast, slow, etc. Many artist like to start upbeat, capture the listeners attention, then give them the mellow or slow pieces and end the record strong. Song order and spacing between songs can have a powerful impact on how the listener FEELS while experiencing your music.
  4. audiowkstation

    audiowkstation Active Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    I agree! Flow is everything. Usually come out of the box on song one with an attention getter.

    Have you ever noticed track 6 is usually the best song on the album?

    They call track 6 the "reaffirm" track where the album basically starts over, many times it is the hit often times, the best song.

    Go through your CD's and see what the percentage of CD you have that have a good track 6.

    When I was in the industry, I heard this from several producers. You also want to end the album with the listeners "wanting more"
  5. Don Grossinger

    Don Grossinger Distinguished past mastering moderator Active Member

    Jan 16, 2002
    just north of NYC
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    I guess that's sort of like having the first track on Side B being an especially strong one for LP.

    For vinyl, I'd like to see a slightly softer tune at the end of each side. That enables me to "save space" at the end of the side to get all the aggressive songs at the top of the side at maximum level. Also, it minimizes inner groove distortion as the side diameter decreases.

    Flow is always important, not only in the actual song sequence, but also in the spacing between tracks throughout. One track should lead to the next in a pleasing fashion.
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