Hi, I downloaded a Waves plugin package I'm thinking of getting. I didn't realize that they had anything available that didn't cost an arm and 2 legs. Someone else had an old post about waves plugins for $9. That got me looking at their website. I have never tried their plugins but they are a standard. They have a "Renaissance" package available for $99 and a demo available (Waves | Bundles | Renaissance Maxx). I thought I'd try them out. Their registration process is kind of klunky like Native Instruments and Toontracks but I can't blame them. They have a 7 day demo available on everything they have once you register. I took my new tune "The Sound of My Heart Breaking" and replaced a lot of the Cakewalk and other plugins with Waves equivalents to see what difference they made, if any. This isn't a complete or exact comparison but it may be of interest. Here's links to the 2 versions (you probably don't need to listen to the whole song to hear the differrences): Cakewalk plugins: http://www.poppavein.com/mp3/FatChance/TheSoundOfMyHeartBreaking.mp3 Waves plugins: http://www.poppavein.com/mp3/FatChance/TheSoundOfMyHeartBreaking_06_waves00.mp3 First, I think I ended up with an overall louder mix with the Waves. Both versions pass through the Jeroen Breebaart Barricade Pro maximizer/limiter, with a -0.3 dB threshold. The difference is that I am using the Waves channel strip vs. the Cakewalk channel strip on the master bus. I do have a Cakewalk multi-band comp on the master before the channel strip. Any way, I think the overall level is not the thing to listen to because I could still pump up the Cakewalk version. Second, this song is still in progress so the performances aren't all ironed out, etc. The acoustic is my Taylor but DI only. This is the first scratch vocal track. I'm not making excuses as much as saying don't dwell on those aspects. I just thought this was interesting, comparing the different plugins using the same tracks. I like the intro acoustics. I used the Waves EQ plugin instead of the Sonar channel EQ. I really like their EQ. It just seems cleaner somehow. I like the rhythm acoustic the most. I didn't end up tweaking the "lead" acoustic as much. I have the waves channel strip on the drum bus instead of the cakewalk strip. I think they end up sounding better with the waves strip. Their strip has presets for kick and snare which I hope to try out on one of my songs with live drums (this song is using Superior Drummer). I also like their convolution reverb. I think I have about 8 of them and my PC isn't dragging at all. All the verbs on the waves version are using their convolution reverb. They have a bass enhance that I'm using on the bass guitar and on a Taurus pedal patch. What it does is generate harmonics for bass fundamentals and adds them to the channel. Kind of cool (the Renaissance Bass). It enhances the bass without simply turning it up, and includes making it sound more present on playback systems with small speakers that can't reproduce the fundamental note. I think it made the Taurus more present without necessicarily being louder. I used their channel strip on my lead vocal track too and again it just sounds smoother somehow. If I listen to the waves version and then go back to the cakewalk version it seems to suck. And I didn't think the cakewalk version was that bad. Overall, I think there's some value there and now I need to convince myself to spend more money!