critique Song Mix - "Spirit" - a secular spiritual stadium rocker

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  1. DogsoverLava

    DogsoverLava Well-Known Member

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    Hey guys - I'd appreciate any feedback on this song and mix - Stadium rock feel-good chorus meets personal introspective in this frozen in time moment...

    Guitar solo outro chorus intentionally quotes a wee bit of Blind Melon - lots of guitars and vocal tracks (double and triple tracked) with (hopefully) some really neat sounds.... Very straight forward drums and a classic bass track that doesn't step on anything...



    Seems to be an issue with the uploading playing the complete file... here's a soundcloud link.

     

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  2. DogsoverLava

    DogsoverLava Well-Known Member

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    I've had some issues uploading the file - trying again here.



    It's weird because when trying to play using the native player it only plays about half way through - but when I "open with" and use Windows media player or other players it plays fine. Anyway - this is the latest mix -- a couple changes made: added some verb to the snare drum and a bit more compression to it, and balanced the guitars a wee bit more.... Things I hear possible are the need to ride the vocal farer a bit more in the chorus - a couple words spike the volume a bit and grab my ear....

    One question I have is in the last chorus I'm playing a lead guitar line that's playing a distinctly different parallel melody quoting Blind Melon's "No Rain"... Does this work for you? - I'm essentially highlighting the dialogic element to feel good songs - that they exist as part of an interlocking historical dialog with each other in form - and reintroducing an element of sadness to the chorus that shows both sides of that coin (as well as setting up the outro solo)... do you get that?

    Anyway - any thoughts on this mix V7 would be great.

    Note - I also created a video for this song using mix 5 as part of my learning on this project. Thoughts or comments welcome there too.



    Here also is a dropbox link to the .wav file

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/4hsaij77sb1iiy3/SpiritV7.wav?dl=0
     

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  3. DogsoverLava

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    Forgive the indulgence here on this guys - just testing some technical issues with my file uploads and playback in the imbedded player. trying a different encoder for the MP3 file

     

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  4. DogsoverLava

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    Hmmm - looks like I'm still having issues - gonna try somethings else...
     
  5. pcrecord

    pcrecord Quality recording seeker ! Well-Known Member

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    Hey thanks for sharing.
    I'm just not sure why asking comments and opinions on your song after it's already being published.
    I thought it sounded nice, apart for the vocals over powering the rest of the band a bit in the choruses. I feel that the vocals take all the space and leave the band a bit weak when the backvocals come in.. But it's a minor thing.. ;)
     
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  6. DogsoverLava

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    Thanks PC - published for me just means my mom and my wife have heard it.... I’ll take feedback any time as I’m still working on the audio file. I did the video for fun and motivation as a learning experience. I agree that the chorus vocals are a tiny bit too prominent. I’ll pay attention to that and see what I can do.
     
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  7. audiokid

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    Ya, I like your sound and style. Your work always reminds me of our cool Vancouver band, 54-40. https://www.5440.com/ If I was mixing this, I would try to make the drums sound more live, like Ocean Pearl .
     
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  8. DogsoverLava

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    Thanks Chris - realize that I've been writing in a very early 80's Vancouver rock style... I'll revisit the drums - they were setup as a dry Ayotte kit profile which I really like tracking with - I only added a little verb on the snare in later mixes (post V5) - I'll maybe try and get a bit more life from them -- drums are my weakest link so far. I really appreciate the feedback. I'm still building my production chops as a producers which is helping shape and evolve the sound while zeroing in on it at the same time.
     
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    audiokid Chris Staff

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    I was able to upload and play it through to the end with no issues.
     
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  10. DogsoverLava

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    Thanks Chris - I think the file is good - it might have had something to do with how it pre-loads in HTML5 and when it starts playing and how certain browsers handle that -- so could be server side and/or user side and related to specific browsers. Just glad you guys could play it. I finally got it to play through too . Thanks for working with me behind the scenes to troubleshoot.
     
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  11. Smashh

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    I like the song . The instruments are all in sync and tight .
    My 5 cents , id like to hear the drums in a room and take up a bigger piece of the pie along with the bass being bigger.
    the stabbing guitar is taking too much space . i would filter out a the lows of that guitar and give that space to the bass
    Then the vocals might sit more comfortable .
    Also rock anthem is played in an arena ...
    nice job Rob
     
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  12. stevie_m

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    Robbie, so much cool stuff going on here. Rhythm guitars nicely stereoized and propel the track. Really nice vocal harmonies all over the place. The solo @ 2:48 is awesome (with that tasteful pinch harmonic). How are you getting that synth effect? Some kind of synth simulator in parallel? I wanted more sustain and bigger sound on the outro guitar lead with the tremolo/slicer effect. The tone feels a bit too small. The playing is great and fits the pocket nice, I would just make it sound bigger. Really cool rocker overall. I can't remember, do you use VSTs for your guitar tones?
     

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