studio monitors stand up or lay down

Discussion in 'Monitoring' started by nanno977, Nov 18, 2004.

  1. nanno977

    nanno977 Guest

    Hi i'm looking some pics over the net and i c that most studio monitors at pro studios ar laying down with the tweeter facing outside, Is it better or what?, i try my own monitors at the two positions (standing up and laying down)(tweeters out and in) and it seems to be a little bit difference in hi freq response.
    How should i put them ? though i already have them placed a the head (ears) level and angled a bit.

  2. miks

    miks Guest

    i think it comes down to preference. Experiment with them and which ever way you feel comfortable with use. I have mine laying down with the tweeters closer to each other.
  3. nanno977

    nanno977 Guest

    Thx Miks i just did that too but i feel like very hi freq steal some space of hi mid and mid freqs, don't you fell the same.
    Like it's to brighty?.
    Anyway that's what i felt.
  4. Krou

    Krou Active Member

    May 27, 2001
    I prefer mine horizontal as well, but I have them woofers in/tweeters out. I mostly have them this way because it allows the tweeter to be more at ear-level than if I had them placed vertically. I have KRK V6II's.
  5. nanno977

    nanno977 Guest

    Yeah! that's the way it appears to be the best position, i'm using them like this now and it sounds the best (i think), also is the way it seem to be popular at pro studios when i saw those pics.
    Tweeters inside sound just a bit too brighty and tweeters outside angled a bit more to face the center of the box to the ears, feels like the right choice.
    Thx guys for your imput.
  6. maestro7879

    maestro7879 Guest

    Try the same mix both ways and see how it comes out. I ended up going horizontal.
  7. st10ss

    st10ss Active Member

    Dec 24, 2003
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    I think it hardly depends on the type of monitors U using.

    I would never lay mine, because they're not made for that. They made for upright operation or flipped upside down. That depends on how high they setup. I used them sometimes as normal hifi speakers in the living room. There it was better to place the tweeters under the woofers. The stands where about 30" high. Now in the working area they are on stands about 45" high it`s really much better to place the tweeter on top.

    I tried in both locations to lay it horizontal, but it sounded always indifferent in depth and space.

    So I ended up in conventional placing.
  8. nanno977

    nanno977 Guest

    i think maybe the monitor was specific designed to be that way but mine though, they came with no position specs at the op manual so i just assume that the setup can be made both ways, but according to my CR design the sound is better Horizontal tweeters outside now that i tried this way.
    I think most monitors at least they have specific tips on how to position, can be used this way getting better sound Q.
  9. jonyoung

    jonyoung Well-Known Member

    Dec 31, 2003
    Since bass info is usually centered in the mix, and mids & highs are more directional (lending to that "left/right" thingy) it makes sense to put the tweeters to the outside if going horizontal. That being said, my monitors are vertical since my CR is small, and I was worried that early reflections might give inaccurate L/R placement. so far, mixes are translating nicely.
  10. nanno977

    nanno977 Guest

    But i think that maybe if you have too many early ref's You can add some absorvers right to the side of the dispersion angle of the sound, against the walls, or if 1 o 2 inches air gap between abs and wall even better. you can see the acuostics forum to get som ideas. TIP: i have what they consider a smal CR but full absroptive treatment will do more than enough to get good mixes, at least it works for me( gee that's a mcgyver phrase).
  11. nanno977

    nanno977 Guest

    damn i'm tired - i can't even write english while i'm translating in mi mind realtime. i'd better go to sleep - tomorrow more and better.
    PS: 2:30 am it's aout time.
  12. jonyoung

    jonyoung Well-Known Member

    Dec 31, 2003
    I do have sidemounted midrange traps where I can find room for them, bass traps in several critical locations also. They really help.
  13. nanno977

    nanno977 Guest

    Have you treated the ceiling too? if not you should, 'cos as well as side early reflections you have also plenty of them coming from the ceiling , if you just can hang the traps anyway you figure, at the same distance of sidetraps it'll also do very well.
    But goin' back to the main, i think that having sidetraps if they're placed correctly you would'nt have any problems placing the monitors horizontal., tweeters outside.If there's still early ref's maybe the sidetraps aren't thik enough, try using 2" thik 705, if you're not already using that thikness level.
  14. jonyoung

    jonyoung Well-Known Member

    Dec 31, 2003
    I do have ceiling treatments also. The other consideration regarding horizontal speaker placement is it requires that you sit a little further back, since the listening distance from the monitors should be the same as the distance between them. Since midrange and high frequency information is what's responsible for creating the L/R stereo image, if I put them horizontally, I couldn't reach my console! :D
  15. nanno977

    nanno977 Guest

    Oh :shock: That can be a real pain, lucky me i can do the triangle setup b-tween me and the moni's.
    But maybe you can improve some kind of remote :lol: , to get an idea, i can point that one i saw around the net used by a guy who doesn't like to move from the sofa to change the channel, and used an extension (stick) with a plastic finger at one end :cool: :lol:
  16. machina

    machina Active Member

    Nov 10, 2004
    With my Alesis Monitor One Mk2's, Alesis recommends that, if the monitors are placed horizontally, the tweeters be positioned to the INSIDE. I have them placed this way on a pair of Auralex isolation pads and they sound just right.
  17. nanno977

    nanno977 Guest

    you know? i've reading something about that, some people say that tweeters should be inside because the waves can't go trhu having the long and big waves of bass freq's cutting their way, but i think as jonyoung said before, if bass is all over and hi's are directional it make sense to put the tweeters facing outside.
    THx Machina, maybe yours are one of those i said that may need specific positions, maybe you can tell us how is your sound , and if it's lacking some freq's or colored, i think that position gives a brighty bit much than outside(just my point of (sight XDDD)view).
  18. iznogood

    iznogood Member

    Feb 9, 2004
    you rarely see hi-end monitors lying down...

    hmmm..... i wonder why????

    drivers in a speaker should be mounted vertically.

    placing them horizontally makes the stereo perception blurred and the spreading of frequencies uneven
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