Discussion in 'Mixing & Song Critique' started by Sebatron, Jul 18, 2003.

  1. Sebatron

    Sebatron Well-Known Member

    Dec 22, 2002
    Talk about soul.
    I put on a Bill Haley and the Comets record the other day and it sounded GREAT!
    On C.D.

    How did those guys record?
    One mic?…Four mics?….
    Obviously complete tube signal path.Maybe 1” tape …. One track?
    Anyone know?

    It sounded so fresh and balanced.Glenn Miller’s goode too.
    Talk about soul.
  2. Mark Burnley

    Mark Burnley Guest

    Talking about Soul...

    Love's "Forever Changes" off vinyl on a sunny day especially:

    A House Is Not A Motel..."...I hear 'ya calling my naaame...!"

    Daily Planet...where it breaks down to just the acoustic, then bass comes in and that sound of a waa switching in and...

    You Set The Scene...last's just that bassline...


    Talk about soul...

    Recordings you made years ago on ramshackle equipment when you were much younger and less experienced...but there's just something about

    (yea yea, so I've been looking through my "archives" recently ;) )


    "Oscillators don't, amplifiers do....."
  3. Anybody thrown on The Band "The Band" lately? All recorded in one room, live off the floor, vocals and everything, the tape machine and mixing board sitting next to them. If they felt the track was getting tired they would freshen up by trading around instruments (the keyboard player would get on the drums, the drummer would play bass, somebody new would sing). They even had the engineer do a horn solo that went on the album, even though he had never played a horn before!
    You can hear all the magic- I get goosebumps every time I hear "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down". If you don't own it, buy it today. Doc
  4. Sebatron

    Sebatron Well-Known Member

    Dec 22, 2002
    Hey yeah , The Band.
    All in one room ? Mic?
    ...gotta check it out.That's more like it.

    I like that 'Crosby Stills and Nash ' record,
    the first one.Little Richard gets played a fair bit as well.

    ...actually i picked up 'hits of '79' the other day.....a compilation C.D.

    This was on it:
    Cheap Trick
    The Knack
    Lena Lovich
    Born to be alive

    i can't remember the rest.

    Some good tom sounds.
  5. Pez

    Pez Active Member

    Dec 27, 2002
    The Comets were really great. Some fine guitar playing for such an early era. Rock around the clock has a great solo with lots of energy. I'm heavy into rockabilly. They helped to define rock and roll without a doubt. Just heard Brian Setzer trio at the NAMM show. They rocked the house down. Incredible playing. Doc, the Band is still one of my favs of all time.
  6. I hear ya talkin', John. BTW, I have been meaning to ask you this, any relation to Ben Grimm (AKA The Thing from Fantastic Four)? :D David
  7. Rod Gervais

    Rod Gervais Distinguished Member

    Jun 8, 2003
    Central Village, CT
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    Always loved Crosby Still and Nash - but damn - back in the "good old days" Loggins and Messina did some great stuff too...... and Doc..... you're right about the "Band"........

    Damn i'm feeling sooooooooo old right now..... :D

    Happy Hunting

  8. Sebatron

    Sebatron Well-Known Member

    Dec 22, 2002
    The music's all the same,
    it's just the production that dates it. :cool:

    Actually i did see 'the Band' live quite a few years ago.Maybe twelve years ago.I ain't old. :d:

    He ain't heavy ,.... or was that 'The Hollies'?
  9. Pez

    Pez Active Member

    Dec 27, 2002
    Rod, If you liked CSNY you might want to check out the new Thorns CD. Brendan produced it and an old friend of mine plays with them. They sound an awful lot like CSNY. Saw them in concert with the Jayhawks recently.
  10. Pez

    Pez Active Member

    Dec 27, 2002
    I don't know if I was a relation (Ben Grimm) but I certainly felt like one when I was a kid. Actually I had a thing for Tina (Metal Men). She was a robot in love with her creator. She would cry when she wasn't supposed to (no feelings built in I guess). She was a fox (if she only knew how I felt about her) :eek:
  11. Guest

    I'm a little worried, Rod. Loggins and Messina in the same sentence as CS&N and The Band??? Isn't that kind of like comparing Bob Seger to Bob Dylan?

    Maybe I just never heard the right songs. when you say L&M all that pops into my head is "Your Mama don't dance..." Wouldn't that be in the bubblegum category? oh, well... maybe i'm even older than you!
  12. Pez

    Pez Active Member

    Dec 27, 2002
    I'm going to defend Rod here. I agree that Loggin's later stuff turns me off and I can easily understand how "Mama don't Dance" could encourage one to commit early suicide. The first Loggins & Messina LP was quite good however for it's time. It's been years since I've heard it but I remember Jim Messina playing some cool guitar licks way before a lot of that style became popular. Wasn't he originally with Buffalo Springfield?
  13. lkaven

    lkaven Guest

    It was probably an Ampex 350 1/4" full-track. The electronics were likely modified broadcast gear, such as RCA or Western Electric.

  14. Sebatron

    Sebatron Well-Known Member

    Dec 22, 2002
    You're right Luke.

    I pinched this quote about the Ampex 350.

  15. lkaven

    lkaven Guest

    That and all those great Blue Note jazz recordings that Rudy van Gelder made. I love the way those sound. If I can get that sound out of your electronics, I'll be a happy organism.

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