Thinking of switching to Logic From PT

[noteFarm]

Hi folks,
I havent been here in a while, hope you are all well
I have a few questions I hope you can help me with.
I curently have a stable 001 set up and can record 13 tracks at atime with an ADAT for extra inputs via the light pipe. I get 32 tracks of audio and never use midi asside from my 2 Motor Mixes.
I have another Mac that I would like to use as a Logic set up
Mac G4733 with 1MB L3 cache 384 MB SDRAM OS 10.3.2. a Glyph X project FW drive for Audio .
Here are my questions.
1. I typicly use Verb on an Aux and 4 extra Chanells as a que mix when tracking, would I be able to do this with Logic.
2 I need to be able to track 13 tracks at a time for initial tracking, will I be able to do this and if so any recomendatios on interface would be most usefull.
3. Dose Logic support th Motor Mix conroll surface?
4. Do you find logic as intuative as Pro Tools.?
5. In PT Bounce to disc is in real time, Is it any quicker in Logic
6. What type of Plug ins work with logic?
7. What kind of track count do you think I should expect from this set up?

Thanks in advance and sorry for the long winded post.

Cheers
J

 

[mjones4th]

1. Yes. Buses and aux objects will have you covered for any type of complex routing you desire.

2. Logic maxes out at 12 inputs, I believe. Anyone know different? But you would be able to use your Digi001 with Logic. (In OS9 at least, not too sure about OS X). MOTU 828mkII is an alternative.

3. Yes

4. Never used PT. Logic is intuitive after the learning curve is dome with. For me, Logic was my first software sequencer experience back in August 2001, so it took me a couple of months to get comfortable. I had worked only with hardware sequencers (Roland MC50) in the past. But, you're experienced, so I would think you would have an easier transition.

5. You can bounce real time, or offline. In the case where CPU load is <100%, the offline bounce will be faster than real time.

6. On OS 9, VST. On Os X, AU. I'm not sure how far the pro tools extensions go, but I believe one of them gives you a fully functional TDM mixer within Logic, in which you can use TDM plugs, w/the proper hardware. I believe.

7. Depends on your config. You're running PTLE on the same machine you're planning to run Logic on, right? If so, then you should expect similar performance. Since PTLE is also dependant on host capabilities, Logic will be accessing the same resources, and should provide the same performance.

Hope this helps

mitzelplik

 

[noteFarm]

Mark,
Thanks for the rply , that helps out alot.
Cheers.
J

 

[pappskalle]

I'll just add this in addition to Marks reply:

4.but you must unlearn what you have learned. :roll: It ain't PT.

7. Exept that with logic you can have more tracks than PTle lets you...
Is it 128 Audio tracks still or unlimited with 6.x?

Roger

 

[mjones4th]

Yeah I guess I was thinking more along the lines of transitioning knowledge And you can always customize Logic's key commands to roughly match PTLE.

As far as Max audio tracks: Its 192 w/single hardware, and 256 w/multiple hardware, i believe.

 

[noteFarm]

Thanks for the input,
I am thinking of going for the MOTU Audio 24 as the front end.
I love the idea of the customizeable key commands, anything to make it seem more familiar.
Thanks again
J

 

[mjones4th]

I hope you have a very uneventful transition!!!

Also, if you want to move now, my suggestion would be to see if you can find a used copy of Logic Gold or Platinum and transfer the license (try ebay). This will allow you to upgrade to Logic Pro for $199. Alternately, you can see if you can find a new copy of Logic still in the distribution chain somewhere. Logic Pro is $999 new, but Platinum was $649, Gold was $499.

Orrrrrrr.......

If you (or your child!) are a college student, you can get Logic Pro for $499 from the Apple Store!!!! Fantastic deal, as this package consists of several components, which, a month ago, costed around $2500

 

[kenn.michael]

Logic can do more than 12 inputs at once. It's hardware dependent. If your hard drive can handle 72 tracks at once on record, Logic can record it.

 

[mjones4th]

Well you learn something new everyday! I think I based it on the number of available input objects you can have, which is 12.

 

[stefhambrook]

AFAIK you can have as many input objects as you have inputs on your hardware. I have 24 and regularly track with that many no problem.

 

[moles]

Also- I believe one of the initial displays of the G5's power capabilities was to run 1000 tracks of audio in Logic 6, with 256 bands of EQ, or something goofy like that. Anyway, I believe the point was unlimited tracks....
Oh, yeah... I find it nice to be able to do graphic automation on EVERY possible track parameter in the same manner as PT's volume and pan graph. Very intuitive, I find.

 

[teleharmonic]

Originally posted by moles:
Also- I believe one of the initial displays of the G5's power capabilities was to run 1000 tracks of audio in Logic 6, with 256 bands of EQ,

so i can't eq the other 744 tracks?

that's disappointing...

 

[moles]

:roll:
Aparently that whole deal only took 25%CPU power. It was on Emagic's site. I'll go look now.

 

[moles]

Oops, sorry it was on Logicuser.com

Apple Announces G5
June 23rd 2003

Apple has today announced details of the new Mac G5. Apple's Phill Schiller demod Logic where 1000 simultaneous voices can be played with 24-bit stereo. Then shows 100 EQs, 8 bands each (with stereo) == 1600 bands. The G5 handles it with only 25% usage.

...and it's 255 max tracks - unless you're using PT TDM (or LE I would imagine) then it's 128 max.