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Tremendous Bass Tone - How To Mix A Bass Guitar

Discussion in 'Bass' started by Paschalis I., Jun 5, 2014.

  1. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

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    I deleted it in the hope that it would let things cool down a bit. I figured you would resurrect it eventually. I just wanted the thread to have a "time out", as it had drifted into personal insults.

    I have no problem with someone posting a process that they've discovered works for them. As long as they understand that when doing so, they are opening themselves up to a critique to the process.

    If you can't accept that, or are gonna get pissed off if someone disagrees with you, then you're better off not posting.

    d/
     
  2. Kurt Foster

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    hee hee hee ...... he did get all bunched up there at the end didn't he? lol ..... :ROFLMAO: cracks me up.

    as soon as he resorted to person attack i knew he had nothing left. there is a post where he got very outside that is missing. did he delete it or did a mod do something with it?

    oh well, it was fun. :rolleyes:
     
  3. audiokid

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    I removed one of yours and one of his. They were destructive to the goal here. The deletion notice should say it was deleted by whomever deleted it.
     
  4. audiokid

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    Look like he's gone but has this same info posted on a few other forums so... for the sake of references to this content, it can be found here. http://homerecording.com/bbs/general-discussions/mixing-techniques/tremendous-bass-tone-how-mix-bass-guitar-369784/

    Also, notice, RECORDING ORG is the only forum on the planet challenging people to crack this BS spewing throughout the "Affordable Recording" industry .
    If you follow where I'm going, and want to really want to make a difference ( to everyone), allow people to remix or contribute to proving claims that plug-ins and processes are really all they say they are.
    As it sits, I think its time to challenge everything via A/B audio examples .

    The OP had the opportunity to redeem himself . To confirm what claims to be useful, is actually worth doing. (n)

    As it sits, this post is added to the (virtual list in my mind) of affordable recording BS.
    I think we should create a forum called, Affordable Recording BS.
     
  5. DonnyThompson

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    Chris, Kurt, check your PM's
     
  6. audiokid

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    BTW, I'm not saying you can't sound stellar all ITB. I love Samplitude, its all I need, hybrid is simply like having heated leather seats and tires for each season. I can corner and get to the finish line and possibly go where no daw has gone before. I'm hoping I can sell off all I have and get the same results with a stock DAW and one mic some day.
    What I'm saying, do we need 50 third party plug-ins and this as an example on how to do it? Are they really helping us?
    This guys music and results sound common to me. I know I could get superior sound without all that processing 100% ITB.
    Is this really what newbies need? Or, do they need a few of me to challenge and demystify the GAS over plug-ins. To me, its way out of control. I say, this isn't just a newbie problem, 95 percent of the mass are way out of control with this nonsense. We have been supporting what I think is total bs.
     
  7. Josh Conley

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    it's the ease. you can heap on compression, eq, image shifting, pitch shifting, more eq, limit... etc... on every single channel, and again with multiband crap on the master bus.
    It's too easy. Kid in a candy store. No soup for you.

    Maybe one of those windows (tm) warning popups for newly installed softwares so when you go cranking the ratio too high or threshold real low, or Q setting too tight, or boost an eq more than 3 or 4 db or using a damn exciter *at all*... a window pops up "THESE SETTING ARE KNOWN TO HAVE A CRAPPY EFFECT ON SOUND", please select ok to continue :)

    Have you ever ventured out onto a forum that would appeal to young "beat makers" or "producers" or whatever the hell they call themselves now? It's a damn mess of bad information. Horribly bad info. Lump all this together and you get tutorials on the ultimate bass processing mess.
     
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  8. audiokid

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    Exactly. Go to Gearslutz now. Its about 75% EM users spewing this crap out. Not to mention, Pro's I know claiming a $7000 master clock is helping their mix "sound better". Its not helping sound better, its forcing their out of sync, out of "control" digital latency plagued chain to stay in sync a bit better. Clueless perception to why its all ^#$% ed up in the first place....

    (cigarette warning) lol! Warning these plug-ins may be bad for your health!
     
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  9. Kurt Foster

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    i think a lot of people suffer from placebo effect when it comes to processing. plugs or hardware. someone spends a butt load of cash on something ...... so of course it has to have a positive effect. not so grasshoppers.

    any processing of a signal degrades said signal. processing may make something work better in a mix but it doesn't make something sound better. how can that be, you might ask? best case scenario; the way classical music is recorded. mic(s) to pre(s) to tape (daw) to speaker(s). it doesn't get better than that. anything else adds noise and interferes with the fidelity of the sound.

    but much like soloing a track out of context and tweaking it to sound it's best, the purest signals may not sit well in said mix. so the gods of recording developed and invented signal processors. (ok, e.q,'s were invented to "fix" certain issues in long distance transmission lines.)


    there's no such thing as a "goodulator".

    all the plugs this guy used to achieve this so called "tremendous sound", it's no wonder it sounds like ass.
     
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