trying to understand 7/4 time signature so i can plug it into reason

Discussion in 'Mixing & Song Critique' started by jbourne84, Oct 9, 2012.

  1. jbourne84

    jbourne84 Active Member

    Sep 9, 2010
    Peter Gabriel - Salsbury Hill > Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill - YouTube

    it is in 7/4 (or maybe 14/8?)

    I am thinking its 14/8 with it broken up 3+3+8 but please correct me. I have been looking up odd time signatures and people talk about specific rhythms and state which beats get accented, so im trying to do that with this song but I am having trouble

    I am not very good with my odd musical time signatures but hoping someone else can easily identify how the rhythm is broken up & accented. (this is really just so i can recreate it in reason and understand what makes the rhythm the way it is.)

    Thanks for any help!
  2. poni618

    poni618 Active Member

    Oct 3, 2012
    oh cool,
    didn't know that was in 7/4!! neato

    count out... one two three four FIVE six seven,

    so the accent is on Five
    i think that's how 7/4 is?
    money by pink floyd is also in 7/4 time
  3. poni618

    poni618 Active Member

    Oct 3, 2012
    it's not an easily identifiable time signature like 3/4, so dont feel bad.
  4. DrGonz

    DrGonz Active Member

    Jun 24, 2007
    Phoenix, AZ
    I had this same trouble relating time signatures to a BFD program of a strange song that I wrote. Sometimes the signature is dependent on the idea of the song and structures of the reps within it's constructs. Or should I say that 6/8 is the same as 12/8 but twice as long. Sometimes in BFD I have found that the musicality was easier to create if I used 12/8 on the chorus when I was playing the main verses in 15/8. That was because the only way to interpret my verse was by use of eighth notes and each rep contained a 15 count. So how could you write out 7.5/8?? When I would try two bars of 6/8 for the chorus instead of one bar 12/8 there was a strange feeling that occurred in the flow of the drum beat going from 15/8 to 6/8. Not saying it was anything different but it was too hard to interpret while I was creating the beat while making all my drum parts w/ a keyboard. Go listen to Grateful Dead's Terrapin Station where they break out into a 15/8 beat. Very rare to find many songs in 15/8 and it taught me something just programming that one song.

    [[I referenced a great post on this answer here so really just go look at this small posting link below]]
    To me it is a question of is it 3/4 then 4/4 or reversed 4/4 then 3/4 per each measure of 7/4. Trying to figure out the feel of 7/4 is important to see if should go like 3+4 or 4+3. To me I think of Salsbury Hill as 4+3. But I like your thinking of 14/8 and looking at it another way too since that is considering the tempo as something that is faster. But sometimes in a program you can create 14/4 and then sneak a 7/4 at the end to keep it the right number of bars. When you are programming the drums it pays to get as creative as you possibly can... So the more beats per sample the more variations you can include and you cover more measures that way at one time.
  5. djmukilteo

    djmukilteo Well-Known Member

    Nov 23, 2008
    Rainy Roads WA USA
    It's 7/4

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