very present full crunchy guitar

Discussion in 'Guitars' started by westshore, May 7, 2005.

  1. westshore

    westshore Guest

    I have a mesa triple rec, and i love the sound. Im looking for that sevendust/finch sound. It sounds awesome micd. Im using a 57beta. I want that full(not scratchy) smooth present tone. If anyone has any tips to get that tone to the next level, whether it be plug ins or anything i would appreciate it.
  2. Treena Foster

    Treena Foster Active Member

    Jul 4, 2003
    EQ can be your friend!

    Place the mic close to the grill cloth. I like it mashed right up against it but you may like it better with an inch or two of space.. (the space will you give you a more ambient sound)....and aimed at the point half way between the edge of the speaker and the center ... Put on some phones and listen while you move the mic around in very small moves ... You will find a place that sounds best to you ...

    As far as plugins; I haven't found a need for them as of yet, considering the awesome amp you have and your style of playing, you seem to have all the tools at hand to acheive the tone you are looking for, IMHO.

    Don't be afraid to experiment with tones. EQ can be your best friend when used right!

  3. Dr_Simon

    Dr_Simon Guest

    Isolation cans can really help find the sweet spot !!
  4. sheet

    sheet Well-Known Member

    May 28, 2003
    Kansas City, KS
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    Ditch the Beta57. That is NOT a great smooth mic for guitar in my opinion.
  5. westshore

    westshore Guest

    And use what?

    We have a Marshall condenser and some AT4040s as well. Which mic on the market would give us the sound we are looking for posted above?

    - Chris
  6. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Dec 10, 2001
    Pacific NW
    Perhaps a combination of mics. Smooth mics...examples would be the EV RE20,Senn MD421,Senn MD409,Shure SM7,....I'm currently liking the Audix i5 for instruments as well as an adulterated ADK A51 model V.Sometimes a good LDC out in the room a bit as well as a close mic,usually dynamic, is the key to the next step.Dont overlook the LA2A sound for gits...very heady.I also like the DBX 160X comp for that in-yer-face git sound.One seemingly overlooked trick is to get the cabinet off the floor.It decouples and lets through a plethora of frequencies you probably didnt realize you were missing.
  7. McCheese

    McCheese Well-Known Member

    Mar 24, 2005
    Another thing that people often overlook when they're looking for that modern heavy sound is layering. You've got the amp, find the right mic and sweet spot, then record several passes, each as close to the original as possible, then layer these. It helps to change one component in the chain each time, like switch guitars, or even just switch pickups, maybe move the mic just a tad to change the sound slightly. I also find I get better results if I back off the amp's gain a tad. Things tend to blend a little better when I do.

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