vinyl > DAW "sampling"

Discussion in 'Computing' started by MicrophoneMan, Nov 12, 2001.

  1. MicrophoneMan

    MicrophoneMan Active Member

    Aug 14, 2001
    To preface this question: let it be known that although I am not totally clueless about what goes on in the "DJ" world, I am still in the dark on some of it - and most "DJs" I know, don't focus on clarity.

    I have been having to sample alot off of vinyl lately, usually 12". Most often with a tech 1200 or 1210, with a shure or ortofon cartridge.

    I would be one to re-amp stuff later on down the road to tweek things out, but just for the sake of trasfering it over to digital -

    does anyone have any cool procedures?

    any direct boxes used in conjuction with a phono pre work really good?

    Not something I do so much, and hoping someone else here has gone down that road before me
  2. Ang1970

    Ang1970 Well-Known Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    It may be desireable to go ahead and use what the hip-hop/club/etc producers have been using for years... irregardless of the "bad" sound quality. There is a particular character that will be difficult to recreate after the fact. Disco-mush.

    I recommend stanton or ortofon cartriges, with a penny taped to the top.
  3. e-cue

    e-cue Active Member

    Oct 5, 2000
    Two Avalon U5's work very well. The high Z input on the Avalon VT737SPs also work pretty good, and give you the flexibity of the eq, comp, etc. Most of my vinyl samples end up being mono, and I'll use the sans-amp plug in a lot on them. And if I feel that the sample is missing charater, the MasterX5 plug-in fills them in pretty nice.
    I've also added lint to the stylis to get added grint without seriously damaging the wax. Sometimes I'll even run it to an old beat up cassette, depends on the track.
  4. DownSouth

    DownSouth Guest

    It all depends on what you are trying to do. Contrary to the outsiders point of view, hip hop/Rap music has not been into "dirty" samples for years. The commercialization of rap/hip hop has led to those records sounding as clean as your average r&b song from Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Janet Jackson, etc. Listen to any of the Puffy, Jermaine Dupri, Jay Z, etc. stuff over the past 6/7 years. Dirty samples that led to dirty sounding records back then were more a product of 8bit and 12 bit samplers and lack of cheap noise/crackle removal methods more than anything. As a hip hop producer we try and get the samples as clean as possible. Technics 1200/1210's right through the little mixer that they are hooked up to (Numark, GLI, Stanton, etc.) to your console like everything else, into the DAW if need be to remove hiss, pops/crackle. If you have no little mixer get a phono preamp ($75-$150).
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