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  1. Telecaster

    Telecaster Active Member

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    Hi All,

    I found my way here from Either Samplitude or Sonar forum, wher a kind soul posted a link to Donny Thompson's brilliant post "If You're not using Samplitude....".
    On recommendation from Sunbreak studio and Calamaty Studio, i looked at Samplitude Music Studio 2013, but sort of got away from it.

    Now Gibson (owner of Cakewalk) have decided to do no more development of Sonar Platinum, I got an offer I couldn't refuse from Magix and are now the proud owner of Samplitude Pro X3 Suite.

    So look out steep learning curve ahead:confused:

    Cheers Mike
     
  2. DonnyThompson

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    Hi Telecaster :) Welcome to RO! :)
    Cass at Sunbreak and Paul at Calamity are both good acquaintances of mine, we've known each other since the old Cakewalk Forum days. I've done work with both of them and it was always a pleasure to be involved with them, as they are true pros, with loads of talent and knowledge.
    Cass is a wonderful Mastering Engineer, Paul Russell is a great audio engineer who has become much more involved with video and film these days, but I know both have been using Samp/Sequoia for a long time.
    Glad to have you here!
    Pour yourself your favorite beverage and jump in! ;)
    -d.
     
  3. Telecaster

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    Hi Donny long time no speak,

    Yeah Paul has given me a lot of good advice over the years, in photography as well and I still have all the collaboration music that was created in TOOP, and your brilliant vocal on a Steely Dan cover that was done back then ( at least I think it was your vocal)

    Nice to be here.

    Cheers Mike
     
  4. pcrecord

    pcrecord Quality recording seeker ! Distinguished Member

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    Welcome to RO Telecaster !
     
  5. DonnyThompson

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    Oh Lord... I've forgotten all about doing that vocal track...LOL.
    I'm glad you've found your way here to RO.
    I think you'll find it to be a cool place to hang out, and, a fantastic resource for all things audio and production. We have some pretty serious bad asses here...members who are incredibly knowledgeable and experienced in the craft of audio recording. I urge you to do searches on past posts; there are great threads on mics, mic technique, both analog and digital recording, room acoustics, monitoring, MIDI, controllers, consoles, mic pres, workflows and methods of production...but ...don't be shy about starting your own thread and posting questions of your own, either. ;)
    I'm confident you'll like it here...and while RO isn't a site dedicated solely to Samplitude (( we talk about all kinds of different DAW platforms here, and there are some very good ones other than Samp) it has become a decent resource for Samp questions and answers. I think we will probably start to see more former Sonar users migrating here in the days ahead, as Gibson pounds the last nails into the lid of the Sonar coffin and its connected users forums.
    ;)
     
  6. Makzimia

    Makzimia The Minstrel Well-Known Member

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    Welcome Mike, welcome to the Samplitude support center ;). J/K!!!.
     
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  7. Telecaster

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    Cheers Makzimia
     
  8. Telecaster

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    I have already found a lot of tips and tricks, Kraznet's videos are super helpful, and I am sure a lot of questions will pop up, and I am not afraid of asking. Hehe, maybe I should post The Steely Dan cover here;)
     
  9. DonnyThompson

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    Samplitude can seem a bit daunting at first; it's so feature-rich that it's not what I would describe as a simple, basic, "jump in and record" type of platform. (And I'm NOT knocking those kinds of DAWs, Mike...I think they serve a great purpose as "introduction" programs for those who are new or novices with digital production...we all have to start somewhere. ;) )
    But honestly, ANY new platform you work with will have its own learning curve, and there will be a period of adjustment - even for those who are experienced with DAW production.
    Samplitude is a bit steeper than others - because it can do so much.
    Even the first Pro X version took me a fair amount of time to get used to going off of Sonar PE, and with the following versions of 2 & 3, there have been even more features added, so it's gonna take you a little time to get comfortable with it.
    I strongly urge you to seek out YouTube instructional vids from a user named "Kraznet" (who's real name is Martin). He has wonderful instructional chapters covering all things Samplitude and Sequoia, and he explains things in such succinct, understandable ways. He gets right to the point, there's no "bloat" or time wasting dialogue.
    " You want to do ______? Okay. First do this, now do this. Open this, and select this. You're done."

    He saved my bacon more times than I could count, when I was stupid enough to switch DAW programs smack dab in the middle of an album project I was producing. And I still turn to his vids occasionally. When I do eventually take the plunge and move up to Pro X 3, it's comforting to know that between his videos, and Samp users here on RO, that it won't be as difficult for me to become familiar with it.
    Because... there's a lot of Samp knowledge floating around the balls of RO, too.
    I just wanted you to have another resource that's more "immediate" if you're pressed for time or in the middle of doing something and need answers fast ;)
    Don't be scared to ask questions here. RO is NOT GearSlutz; we don't treat people as less than important based on their equipment or experience level. While many of us here do have some very nice gear, and we do talk about the differences between budget and pro level equipment, we're not going to look down upon any one who has basic questions.
    RO is all about respect, problem based learning, teaching ...and fun, too.
    :)
    -donny
     
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  10. BooStudio

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    Hello all:
    I found my way to RO via a search regarding summing - specifically “Analog Summing: Valid or Voodoo” ... dudes — sweet thread!!! Chris/ Donny / Boswell / and the many other contributors: Your total dedication to the 2 daw concept and Samplitude completely resonated with me — I’m all in.

    I will be testing / hearing for myself of course. As soon as I can get an add’l PC set up I look forward to delving into Samplitude .... I’m really looking forward to mixing into daw2 and eventually migrating completely from PT.

    Hi Kraznet videos!

    It’ll be baby steps again for a while for me, but truly quality audio is a game of inches is it not? Add ‘em all up and it’s the weakest link that holds you back - there can really be no compromise. So tired of the “smear.” Really hoping these next steps prove as true for me as it seems they have for many of you!
    Warmest regards,
    Rich Liegey
     
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  11. DonnyThompson

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    Full disclosure- I'm not nearly as experienced in the 2 DAW workflow as Chris and Bos are, and while I'm honored to be included alongside my very talented colleagues, your best bet for 2DAW information is with them.
    Although, I'm happy to take credit for being a strong proponent for Samplitude, and if there's anyway I can assist with that, I'm happy to help if I can. ;)
    -d.
     
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  12. DonnyThompson

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    It certainly can be a game of inches, of small degrees of improvement... But as you said, (which also happens to be one of my go-to sayings as well), "your chain is only ever as good as your weakest link".

    I think that pretty much applies to any process or craft that requires multiple components...
    I happen to love fly fishing. I'm at total peace when I'm walking a clear, cold, secluded mountain stream in search of the elusive and wiley brook trout. Lol.
    I could have a $2000 Tonkin Bamboo fly rod, a $300 Redington Reel, and a great selection of hand tied flies...but if I'm using a cheap $5 leader line, that tangles, twists, or snaps at the moment the fish strikes, then those other things don't really matter.
    You can definitely improve your audio signal by improving certain components...a nice mic and preamp are great things to have...but if you're connecting those things to budget level converters, the mic and pre will only give you so much improvement.
    Very few have the luxury of buying a U87, Neve 1073 pre, and Apogee or Antelope Converters all at the same time...so we add the improvements we are able to add as money allows. In the meantime, we improve what we can in stages, and accept the differences we hear, but knowing that the ultimate end goal is to end up with a primo gain chain from start to finish.
    I don't believe that you would ever regret investing in a nice pre, or mic...but until every link in your chain is quality-matched from piece to piece, you won't get the "wow" factor until those high caliber pieces are all working together....and, there's also monitoring, room treatment...

    I think that every "cooker", those who are passionate about the craft of audio recording, will always want "one more thing". I have two very nice Preamps; an ADK AP1, and a recently acquired Focusrite ISA One. I love them both. I also have a collection of pretty nice mics, too...a few of them are even vintage.
    And, I have an Apogee Duet on the way...so I've got two really nice transformer based pres, nice Dynamics and condensers, and a very clean pre (and nice conversion) with the Apogee. But that doesn't mean I don't also want a really nice tube preamp, or another clean preamp like a Millennia or Grace, or more mics to add to my collection. And I'd wager I'm not alone in my never ending desire for more great audio pieces.
    But...we also have to determine the difference between "personal want", and business investment "need". Having great gear will never hurt your business...unless you are "equipment poor", which is having great gear to offer clients and to set yourself above other studios...but that only works as well as what your clientele is willing (or able) to pay. Studio rates are currently in the basement. Even pro rooms are hurting and have dropped their prices. So yes, you can invest multi thousands of dollars into great gear...but if you don't have clients who are willing to pay what you need to make to at least break even on your gear investment, then it becomes a personal indulgence, and fulfilling your own desire to have that gear. And there's NOTHING wrong with that, either. It's a great self hobby to have, especially if you are a writer and musician and want to record and release your own stuff...because if you want to do that, then it should sound great.
    It all comes down to what you want vs. what you need... And sometimes the line between those two things can get pretty blurry. Ask me how I know. ;)
    -donny
     
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  13. Bartie Boy

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    Having just bought the ProX 3 Suit deal was googling the difference between Samplitude and Sequoia
     
  14. pcrecord

    pcrecord Quality recording seeker ! Distinguished Member

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    Welcome to RO Bartie Boy !
    Great to have you onboard ;)
     
  15. ZephyrPark

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    Another ex-Sonar refugee here. I bailed on Cakewalk during the post-8.5 X era (X for execrable?) and tried with mixed success to get comfortable with Studio One. The much-improved Sonar Platinum drew me back, but now the Gibson jackals have bailed on me. I'm primarily a home-studio-based songwriter who uses a DAW workstation as a composing tool. Keys are my main axe, but I also sing. The older and raspier I get, the more people seem to like my voice. No accounting for taste, I guess. Right now I'm looking to commit to a new DAW. Been busy the last few weeks cracking open dusty old versions of Reaper and Samplitude that I own and trying out trial versions of stuff like Digital Performer and Acoustica Mixcraft--all specially-priced to entice former Sonarians to sign up. Reaper seems slicker and far less arcane than I remember, and Mixcraft is very interesting: the antithesis of Samplitude in its intuitive accessibility. Beneath its drab GUI and seemingly spartan menu, it's actually a very intelligent full-featured DAW with some very cool tricks.
    How did I get here? I followed a link that somebody sent me about some plug or other and the first post I stumbled on was a long, edifying screed from the estimable Donny Thompson, who I remember fondly from the various Other Place and Other Other Place forums (where I sported the drab spartan handles Grey and Greybeard). We both had tracks on a couple of compilation CD's. There as here, Donny was a most helpful and accommodating expert on all things audio--as well as a superb singer and player. I learned a lot from him--hope to continue to do so here. From Donny and and from the rest of you good folks. Cheers.
     
  16. Telecaster

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    [QUOTE="ZephyrPark,
    How did I get here? I followed a link that somebody sent me about some plug or other and the first post I stumbled on was a long, edifying screed from the estimable Donny Thompson, who I remember fondly from the various Other Place and Other Other Place forums (where I sported the drab spartan handles Grey and Greybeard). We both had tracks on a couple of compilation CD's. There as here, Donny was a most helpful and accommodating expert on all things audio--as well as a superb singer and player. I learned a lot from him--hope to continue to do so here. From Donny and and from the rest of you good folks. Cheers.[/QUOTE]

    Welcome Grey i mean Zephyrpark,
    Yeah post by Donny got me back to samplitude as well, and I still have the compilation CD's:)
    Nice to have you with us.

    Cheers
    Mike
     
  17. ZephyrPark

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    Nice to be here with some familiar faces. A high-quality chop-shop for sure:D
     
  18. pcrecord

    pcrecord Quality recording seeker ! Distinguished Member

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    Welcome to RO @ZephyrPark !!
    Glad to have you onboard !
     
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  19. ZephyrPark

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    Merci beaucoup, mon ami.
     
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  20. Kirk Pitts

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    Hello, new member, Kirk Pitts. Been trying to learn to record and mix for many years as a hobbyist. Finishing up an album and was referenced to this site by a member of the Hamer Fan Club for some potential mix critique.
     
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