What kind of quality would this setup generate?

Discussion in 'Microphones (live or studio)' started by rkohli, Jun 3, 2004.

  1. rkohli

    rkohli Active Member

    Jun 3, 2004
    I'm about to go to college and am getting a new laptop (I know, you'll probably say I should get a desktop, but I definitely want a laptop)...it's probably going to be an IBM 1.6GHZ centrino with 512MB of RAM.

    I was considering purchasing the Mbox so that I would be able to use the Pro Tools "lite" software and get acquainted with it for future occassions.

    I'll mostly be recording rock/pop punk/indie stuff, so for drums, I was thinking I could purchase a mixer that has 6 or 7 inputs which can also pan the tracks, and that way I can record a full drum kit, with clarity for each instrument and panned so that it sounds a bit more real. As for the bass, I would probably just plug straight in (depending on the sound of the bass), and for guitar, I'd probably mic it.

    For vocals, I'd purchase either a SM57 or SM58...in fact, I'll probably end up buying one of those mic kits that has a bunch of stuff.

    Anyways--will my computer be able to handle the load, and (of course, depending on my techniques of recording) how will the product sound. Will the mbox capture the sound that I get through the guitar amp, etc.?

    Thanks very much,

    Rohan Kohli
  2. rkohli

    rkohli Active Member

    Jun 3, 2004
    As I've been reading around the site some more...I'm seeing that I'll need a pre-amp and some sort of compression. For my purposes, what should I get--combined for both the pre-amp and compression, I'd like to spend less than $350. Should I get one of those pre-amps that has 8 channels since I may be recording drums w/that many inputs, or since the output will be only one or two channels (out of the mixer), should I just get one with one or two inputs. If so, which one should I get? And which compressor should I get?

    Thanks...I'm very new to this stuff, but it looks so fun...but expensive =\
  3. Ellegaard

    Ellegaard Active Member

    Feb 17, 2004
    Central Copenhagen
    I don't really know any of the preamps out there, but a combined preamp/comp may be a good idea. For my part, although I haven't started recording a whole lot of vocals, getting a good, rather consistend level without a comp is really a bitch.

    Also, I would recommend getting something else than a dynamic microphone. I have an SM58 myself, and while it's really decent it's probably better on stage live. I think a condenser microphone would give you a whole lot more details than a Shure SM57/58; I would be looking at something like a Studio Projects B1.

    But apart from that, the MBox and laptop seems like an excellent choice!
  4. ShellTones

    ShellTones Guest

    The M-box has two preamps and ADA conversion, so you can start recording right away. But I'd rather have a dedicated PCI souncard and seperate preamp. IMO you can get better quality and versatility that way.

    An SM57 is a good all-around mic and can sound better than a condenser on some voices.

    However, if it were me and I had $500 (M-box price) for a recording chain, I'd buy the following:

    M-Audio Audiophile soundcard ($150)
    M-Audio DMP3 dual preamp ($150)
    FMR RNC Compressor ($175)

    Get an SM57 or SP B1 mic ($80)

    Get some inexpensive recording software ($50)--I think Cakewalk starts at $49

    And you are off and recording.

    Then save another $500 for monitors.
  5. rkohli

    rkohli Active Member

    Jun 3, 2004
    Thank you very much for the help, both ShellTones and Ellegaard. For ShellTones - I'll have a laptop...how would I install the audiophile soundcard? I think for my purposes, it may just be easier to use the Mbox and have the pro tools software. At this stage, I'm looking to record good quality demos.

    What exactly is ADA conversion...is that compression? Basically what I'm asking is....does the mbox take care of preamp/compression for me?

    If so, I think that may be my best bet for what I'm trying to do.

    And...since the mixer I'd probably be using to record the drums with would have a stereo output, the dual preamps on the mbox would take care of my problem there, I'm guessing.

    So, basically, the questions I have are:

    *Does the Mbox take care of compression for me?
    *What drum mic package should I get (I plan on getting both a SM57 or SM58 and a SP B1 for vocals/guitars based on all the reading I've done)
    *Will my computer be able to handle the load of recording w/its specs (1.6ghz centrino, 512MB RAM)

    Thanks very much!
  6. Ellegaard

    Ellegaard Active Member

    Feb 17, 2004
    Central Copenhagen
    You can't use a PCi card with a laptop. So the MBox will be just fine - and the Pro Tools software you get with it is enough, no need to change.

    ADA conversion is analog-digita-analog and has nothing to do with compression. Yes, there is built in preamps in the MBox, pretty good stuff, but no compressors.

    But for miking vocals in general, I suggest searching on the subject here or elsewhere. There's gotta be a ton of threads here that discuss the best way of doing it.

    I think your computer is okay. If you can afford it, some more RAM wouldn't hurt, but it's not strictly necessary.
  7. ShellTones

    ShellTones Guest

    Yes, I agree with Ellegaard. I didn't catch the laptop part.
  8. Aziel

    Aziel Guest

    the Mbox is perfect with your laptop, 2 pres and ADA conv., not the best conv. but useable...if u wanna go a little far u can check the 002r, 4 pres...i think 512 meg it`s enough for your work... :wink:

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