Why Pro Tools ??

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  1. olidenson

    olidenson Guest


    ive been heavily involved in producing my own tracks for the last 4 years using diff progs..i have recently settled on the wonderful
    ableton live 5.

    in the past iv used both cubase sx and sonar

    i feel im getting to the point where my tracks are sounding very professional and was wondering what milage i would get if i incorporated pro tools into my life....

    basically my question is why does everyone use pro tools... what will it allow me to do that ableton wont....
  2. jonnyc

    jonnyc Member

    Apr 21, 2005
    First off not everyone uses pro tools, in fact I'm pretty sure a higher percentage of people use Sonar in their homes than Pro Tools. I am a Pro Tools user and the reasons why people use it vary about as much as people's opinion of why people use it. The pro's use it for various reasons, you can get more out of your cpu with a pro tools hd system than any other software/hardware combo, you can go from pro studio to pro studio with no problems, and pro tools is great for editing. There are some people that believe the ONLY reason pro tools is around is because of marketing, and if that were the case they'd be worth more than any marketing team in the world. Anyway IMO if you aren't planning on taking your stuff to a pro studio or starting your own I wouldn't go pro tools. You'd get more out of cubase or sonar.
  3. gdoubleyou

    gdoubleyou Well-Known Member

    Mar 19, 2003
    Kirkland WA
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    Pro Tools will make you big and strong, and give you whiter teeth.

    :roll: :p :lol: :D
  4. David French

    David French Well-Known Member

    Jun 19, 2002
  5. olidenson

    olidenson Guest


    what kind of diffrent editing possibilities does pro tool have over the others...

    and also would i be right in thinking that pro tools is better for tightening up your tracks, compared to say cubase sx..ie making sure audio is sample accurate and things are generally in the right place..
  6. Kev

    Kev Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    I use Pro Tools because I have used it since it was Sound Tools.

    A time when it was near impossible to get anything to come out of a personal computer in real time.
    I still find it the easiest and most reliable software hardware combination.

    other programs have come and many of them are fine production tools.
    I still expect that one day I will have an alternative on the LINUX platform and when it is working well I will chose to use it as an alternative.
    Until then I'll stick with ProTools and will stick with at least one TDM system in my collection.

    Many years ago,
    there were many word processor softwares ... Word Perfect
    Smart and many other names I can't remember ...

    then came Microsoft Word

    Today everyone uses Word ...
    no-one said it was the best ... and no-one asks why do we use word.

    convenience perhaps ... :roll:
  7. jonnyc

    jonnyc Member

    Apr 21, 2005
    Its not that pro tools offers anything different than anything else editing wise it just seems easier to me when it comes to editing. It just seems to be smooth and easy. Like I said I'm a pro tools user and I love it, I started out with cubase and never really liked it that much. IMO pro tools is just easy to work with.
  8. LittleDogAudio

    LittleDogAudio Active Member

    Sep 24, 2004
    They are all simply tools. The program you choose should reflect the way you like to work.

    I've been using protools for many years but as of tomorrow I'm going over to Nuendo. I like the routing and work-flow better and with a floating 32bit engine, I feel that it's superior to PT in the sound-quality dept.
    Nothing but tools.

  9. TheArchitect

    TheArchitect Active Member

    Mar 26, 2005
    What makes you think this? I have limited experience on Pro Tools but configured properly I see no reason to believe its any more accurate than anything else. They record it where you play it.
  10. Kev

    Kev Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    because I have bothered to double check and test this
    as I do with all new systems and or hardware/software upgrades

    it's a computer !
    take nothing for granted

    some software in the past has got this wrong

    this same software could bounce to disk the same passage of audio and make a wav file of different length each bounce
  11. olidenson

    olidenson Guest

    maybe i am still a bit of a newbie.. but let me explain my question a little better... i do a lot of bouncing/rendering to audio... i do this for two reasons.. first to save my cpu and second for further editing purposes (i am more comfortable editing audio than midi)
    it was only recently that i realised that when rendering/bouncing/resampling etc i noticed that there was gaps at the begining of the audio due to the latency i believe... so now i make it a habit to zoom into every piece i create and make sure to edit my audio thus making everything sit properly....

    is this something that pro tools has an edge over .. i know it uses the beat detective which can find the correct sample peaks and re quantise audio .. iv done similar in cubase and ableton live...but does pro tools have the edge in this area....
  12. TheArchitect

    TheArchitect Active Member

    Mar 26, 2005
    Care to name names? First I have ever heard of a modern DAW software have these issues.
  13. TheArchitect

    TheArchitect Active Member

    Mar 26, 2005
    What software are you using where this happened?
  14. Kev

    Kev Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    Cubase 3.52
    Korg1212 card

    These files where imported into Deck and the end points were all different

    Deck and the 1212 were bullet proof on ADAT sync ... once the upgrade came and it omitted a whole chapter in the book
    Termination of the ADAT sync cable was now not required
    I think it was Deck2.5 to 2.6

    After many months of trouble I was talked into upgrading Cubase to 4.0

    The only reason I purchased Cubase was to help my clients and to transfer all tracks across to CLAB and Deck and later to PT when I did get the MixPlus system.

    This Cubase problem was later shown in the same files transfered into PT.

    And the purchase of 4.0 was a complete purchase and not an upgrade.
    No upgrade packs available from my supplier at that time.

    So I have two copies of cubase that didn't work.
    The shop assistant actualy ended up installing a CRACK in order to get the system working because I was desperate to get a job done by the end of that week.

    I've been doing this a very long time and I can keep you very busy with many stories about Harware and Software from a few companies that didn't work.

    Waves, Digidesign, Korg, Roland and many others have all been on the end of my phone attacks for promises they couldn't keep.

    I now don't join the leading (bleeding) edge and wait for confirmation of upgrades.
    It was only 6 months ago I upgraded to HD
    and I still haven't moved to G5
    and only just moved to OSX.

    sometimes you do just have to upgrade and hope for the best
    they are computer, card, os combinations that just gon't and generational change does come.
    nature of the beast

    don't blindly believe what they say
    let them show you it working on your equipment first
  15. TheArchitect

    TheArchitect Active Member

    Mar 26, 2005
    Sage advice but fortunately I don't have to blindly believe anything since sx2.2 is working fine here. A cubase 3.52 reference goes back a few years to the late 90's if memory serves. Whats the statute of limitations on programming crimes anyway? :) I started out on 3.6 on Intel. Granted I wasn't moving tracks from system to system but I never experienced any issues like that.
  16. Kev

    Kev Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    ... even if you were just consolidating tracks with in Cubase it would do this ... lt alone trying to wrk with video and timecode.

    It highlited the difference between a true multitrack unit and a multiple sample playback unit.

    Total sample accurate multiple playback was not a given at the time.

    Things are great, generally, across the board at the moment.

    I do recommend a full check of the basics of timing and time code and levels when dealing with anything that has just been upgraded.

    My main beef is that companies don't acknowledge the problem and leave you floundering trying to explain to clients stuff you don't understand.
    It was working yesterday ???

    Again going back in time

    ADAT Black Face had a polarity reverse thing going on with outputs or inputs ... Lightpipe verses Analog

    fixed with the arrival of the XT's
    I bought XT's

    anyone want to buy some low mileage XT's ?
  17. bobdole

    bobdole Guest

    The Government..........shhhhhh
  18. Kev

    Kev Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    and you will obey
    or the FEDs in the dark glasses will come and take you way under the dark of night
  19. kats

    kats Guest

    PT isn't the "best", but what really is? It's a bit personal. However, if your spending "mucho $$$" on a system, it's comforting to know that PT's Digidesign has been around for a long time and is a solid company and all that goes with that.
  20. Someday

    Someday Guest

    Are you experiencing a good sound? WHY RIGHT NOW KILLING IT? FORGET PRO TOOLS.
    It's not true that "every one" use pt. Pro Tools is in fact the most used RECORDING and editing software, but most Music composers and producers use Logic.

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