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Published on Dec 20, 2012

Please excuse the audio during the narration, but make sure you stick around for the audio example in the last minutes. Pannoir can possibly be the most revolutionary, yet simply manipulated plugin to hit the market in ages. Time correction and phase alignment between direct mic's means that your mix will sound brighter, wider, and most clear than you ever thought possible.

This looks pretty cool. Has anyone used this? Simply put, digital audio is definitely getting interesting. Check out the Pannoir from Merging Technologies.
[GALLERY=media, 410]panNoir Advanced Panning plugin from Merging Technologies - YouTube by audiokid posted Jun 5, 2015 at 9:01 PM[/GALLERY]

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DonnyThompson Sat, 06/06/2015 - 03:08

That was a substantial difference. These tools amaze me - although not as much as the people who think of them and who design them.

Pyramix has been a name that has been popping up on my radar in my audio related internet travels lately - and I'd never heard of them before. Do they make a dedicated production platform? Or just processing?

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pcrecord Sat, 06/06/2015 - 04:58

It seems like a nice product. What's bothering me is that there is many adjustments and I'm thinking more settings = more ways to fail.
I'd rather not use any tools like that but when there is obviously no alternative, I prefer an all automatic system.

I discovered soundradix plugin which was presented to me by you Chris if I remember. It is very simple and effective.
http://www.soundradix.com/products/auto-align

There is also MAutoalign that seems interesting

But
I realise that all automatic may miss a great point which is the correlation with phasing and various effects on specific parts of the frequency spectrum.
You see if we reference 3 mics to a forth one, it might be that the second one would be aligned with the forth but cancelling a part of the third one..
When this happend it would be appropriate to work only on the frequencies affected..
If anyone knows a tool to address that I'm a buyer ! ;)

Voxengo PHA-979 isn't giving a solution to this but offers a spectral correlation metter that reveals the issue I'm talking about.

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thatjeffguy Sat, 06/06/2015 - 09:41

I'm with pc on wanting to avoid the more complex controls. I too found and use AutoAlign. I love it for its ease-of-use and the speed at which I can get results during a mixing session. But this PanNoir definitely shows striking results, it would take me a while to wrap my head around the controls. Since most of my work is really quite simple in terms of instrumentation and arrangement, and given that I ONLY mix that which I myself have tracked, for my needs it looks like overkill. But very innovative and effective in this demo.
Thanks for posting this, Chris!
~Jeff

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niclaus Sun, 06/07/2015 - 00:14

DonnyThompson, post: 429616, member: 46114 wrote: That was a substantial difference. These tools amaze me - although not as much as the people who think of them and who design them.

Pyramix has been a name that has been popping up on my radar in my audio related internet travels lately - and I'd never heard of them before. Do they make a dedicated production platform? Or just processing?

They do make a dedicated platform:

http://www.merging.com/products/pyramix

Actually, it used to be pretty big here in the post-production business a few years back.

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audiokid Mon, 06/08/2015 - 22:16

Exactly this!

When working on project from beginning to end, being able to keep all of your options open creates a huge improvement in what engineers are able to achieve. Mastering directly from your multi-track project means that if there is something wrong with your mix that is affecting what mastering can achieve, then you can fix it instantaneously.

(y)
http://www.merging.com/products/pyramix/key-features#record

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DonnyThompson Tue, 06/09/2015 - 01:53

audiokid, post: 429691, member: 1 wrote: Exactly this! (y)
http://www.merging.com/products/pyramix/key-features#record

That's the most attractive part, IMO... that you can immediately alter that which might be creating an issue with the mastering process.

A few other features that also piqued my interest:

"The mixer has VCAs, Subgroups, Multi-Mono, Multi-Stereo and Stem-Surround buses and Auxiliaries."

"Pyramix even features over 23000ms of delay compensation to allow for almost limitless plugin use without any effect on timeline sync!"

"Pyramix also boasts the ability to be able to place any file (mixed sample rates, file types, bit depths, codecs and track widths) on a single timeline with no rendering required whatsoever."

And This: "48 track recording @ DXD / 384 kHz"... okay... someone please tell me what "DXD" means... because I've never heard of anyone recording at a SR of 384k before. :eek:
On second thought, ya know what? Don't tell me. I don't need to know.

Okay, okay, okay.... I just need to stop. I need to stop right now.

Y'all are gonna have to excuse me for a little bit. I need to go and chant my mantra now...."Ohmmm...Ohmmm..."There's no place like Samplitude, There's no place like Samplitude, There's no place like Samplitude..."