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anonymous 17 October 2005

Do any of you guys have Favorite reference CD's/songs that you listen to for, high-end , bass etc. Just curious

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anonymous Tue, 10/18/2005 - 16:33

Led Zeppelin-"How the West Was Won"-Bonzo's kick sound is a life time goal.

Milton Mapes-"Westernaire" and "The Blacklight Trap"

Drag the River-"Live at the Starlight" (Almost any recording that comes out of the blasting room in fort collins)

Lucero-"That Much Further West"

U2-"Joshua Tree"

Melvins-"Houdini"

Helmet-"Aftertaste-Dave Sardi Mix"

Boiler-"The New Professionals"

I mix mostly alt country and m/metalm/.........

I'll second Aja......

And anything done by Bob Katz......

iznogood Wed, 10/19/2005 - 02:21

Mr-Nice wrote: I dont listen to any "older" stuff for reference, unless I am making a retro-type track. I create modern electronic music so I have to reference modern type tracks to keep up with the Jones' so to speak.

PB

in order to learn about your equipment you really have to.....

if a david bowie record from '73 sounds bright something is wrong..... or if steely dan sounds fat :lol:

imo it's really important to keep a reference .... cause if you just clone other records and just make them a little louder or brighter you'll paint yourself into a corner...

before i work i play some records i know well..... to wake up my ears.... and tune in on the spectral balance....

anonymous Wed, 10/19/2005 - 03:28

it's the music that lift's me into the sky, if it does then i do a good production, cause my mood and energy is there...

led zepp II, and basically all of their music

the style council, home and abroad

stuff by matthew buschwacka!

Mr. C, subterania 100% unreleased

Assorted stuff by Blood, Sweat and Tears, david bowie, miles davis and so on...

Quality underground D'n'B, Techno, Techhouse, House and Breaks... to many to mention!

anonymous Wed, 10/19/2005 - 04:55

iznogood wrote: in order to learn about your equipment you really have to.....

if a david bowie record from '73 sounds bright something is wrong..... or if steely dan sounds fat :lol:

But I already know my equipment so I dont see the point in this anyway.

imo it's really important to keep a reference .... cause if you just clone other records and just make them a little louder or brighter you'll paint yourself into a corner...

The initial question was "Does anyone use a certain CD for reference..." and I gave my response saying that I use modern type tracks as a reference instead of using older tracks (and then I gave my reasons why.

And how would a David Bowie or a Steely Dan CD help me to make electronic music? :lol: That would be ridiculous to use a rock oriented CD to base dance music on dont you think!?! :lol:

before i work i play some records i know well..... to wake up my ears.... and tune in on the spectral balance....

I dont need to do this, I simply have the urge to make a beat regardless where the inspiration came from, I power up the studio and I may use a certain modern type track as a guide bar on what direction I want my project to take. Sometimes its a hit or miss but it is how I work and it works for me.

anonymous Wed, 10/19/2005 - 11:38

Mr. Nice wrote:

And how would a David Bowie or a Steely Dan CD help me to make electronic music?

i agree on that, i have a very wide range of music i like, reaching from punk over jazz to electronica... but they all do require a totally different way of sound treatment and production.

however, i have to say that my experience showed me, that people with a "traditional" background usually are able to produce the "better" electronic stuff, i guess for two reasons... it is a good thing if you have a propper musical background and not only cut 'n' paste, as done in far to much electronic stuff, sadly! and secondly the more you know about a traditional approach the more you can kick it in the bin and break the rules to come up with an progressive approach.

but here we go i just talk a whole lot of utterly rubish, cause one of the most amazing electronic music producers, Matthew B. Bushwacka does play shit, has no f&^%ing clue about oldskool music and he makes to me the most amazing, full of ideas, and chin flapping on the floor sounding recordings... so here we go...
no music, no nothing in the end it's all about the feeling !?

a.

anonymous Thu, 10/20/2005 - 05:32

Isnt mastering the 'tail end', 'final lap' or the 'home stretch' of 'production'? :?

I mean without production who would need mastering? Without the egg who would need a chicken, or without war who would need Bush? :D (thats my political humor).

All seriousness I wasnt trying to go off tangents, production (mixing) and mastering are 2 different entities but I still consider them as a whole (without good production mastering is useless and vice versa). One cant work without the other. Kinda like a helicopter wont work without the rear blade.

anonymous Tue, 10/25/2005 - 04:01

Raul Duke wrote:

Led Zeppelin-"How the West Was Won"-Bonzo's kick sound is a life time goal.

and it will forever be, no technical trickery or recording equipment will ever play with the soul, energy and phisycal attack like bonzo that has him made sound the way he does in the first place!, that's why he is an alltime icon of rock drummers...

it's like trying to fix a shit recording afterwards...

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