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some techniques used to get big bass drum sounds punchy and meaty?

i have AKG d112, m audio octane 8 preamp and the only compressors i have are pro tools plugins. any suggestions how to get the biggest sound possible?

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soapfloats Thu, 08/27/2009 - 23:58

While I haven't used a D112 yet, my Beta 52 has gotten a workout lately.

A rule of thumb:
Google it, and do a search here. Chances are your question has been answered many times.

Answering that from my experience:
Pointing the mic where the beater hits the drum will provide more attack and punch. The closer you get to the beater, the more accentuated this will be.
The further you place the mic from the inside head, the more resonance and boom you will get.

You'll have to experiment and find the right balance to find the sound you want.

Davedog Fri, 08/28/2009 - 09:54

Be sure your souce is both punchy and meaty before you ever put any mic on it.

This means proper tuning, head selection, placement of the drum in a room and of course mic placement.

This may take time and patience on your part, but how much do you really want it?

That will determine how far you will go to make this happen. Its not the gear so much as the use of the gear.

anonymous Mon, 08/31/2009 - 10:10

Assuming you have a great sounding bass drum with at least a 5" hole to place the mic into, I usually get the best results from just placing the mic capsule about an inch inside the hole and aimed between the beater and the rim/hoop. Then be sure to start with your mic pre at it's lowest setting to keep from clipping the preamp. If it is clipping at the lowest setting, you will need to place an inline pad between the mic and the preamp. You can get these through radio shack and they are usually adjustable from -15 to -25 db.

Davedog Mon, 08/31/2009 - 14:18

rickmixes wrote: Assuming you have a great sounding bass drum with at least a 5" hole to place the mic into, I usually get the best results from just placing the mic capsule about an inch inside the hole and aimed between the beater and the rim/hoop. Then be sure to start with your mic pre at it's lowest setting to keep from clipping the preamp. If it is clipping at the lowest setting, you will need to place an inline pad between the mic and the preamp. You can get these through radio shack and they are usually adjustable from -15 to -25 db.

Thanks for your contribution Rick. It is a very good method and works for me as well. If I want more of the 'click' I simply add a hyper-cardioid dynamic inside the drum at the beater, angled slightly off center to control the blasts.

I will also say to our many members that Rick's site and the blogs contained there-in are an excellent read and a good source of information concerning this biz.

Thanks again for sharing. Hope to see you around these parts again soon.

sammyg Sun, 09/06/2009 - 23:08

Hey,

Dont know if this will help but it sure is interesting, amazing how the tone can change dramaticaly from mic placement. The following clips are from a quick exercise, I borrowed a mates d112.

D112 very close to beater head: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1528360/sammys%20homemade%20samples/d112/d112%20very%20close%20to%20batter%20head.mp3

D112 halfway inside kick drum: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1528360/sammys%20homemade%20samples/d112/d112%20halfway%20inside.mp3

D112 just inside soundhole: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1528360/sammys%20homemade%20samples/d112/d112%20just%20inside%20soundhole.mp3

D112 10cm away from soundhole: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1528360/sammys%20homemade%20samples/d112/d112%2010cm%20outside%20of%20soundhole.mp3

cheers,

Sammyg