:evil:...I only replied because this topic wasn't showing up in current topics! Can't anyone help me with regards to Harmonizers? I know they are really expensive, but I thought I was talking to folks who had some REAL bank invested in their studios!

Those people with "real bank invested", as you put it, are probably doing there jobs... The 2 hours and 42 minutes you allotted to be spoon fed before going off tap hardly seems reasonable.

Rob. Check out Antares. They have a plug in harmonizer.

I was at a studio for two years that had an Eventide Harmonizer. Unfortunately, I never got to use it as it never worked. Too expensive to fix I suppose but it looked nice in the rack. Anyhow, I think technology has caught up and the software versions are quite good now. Even some of the cheaper hardware boxes are probably quite nice sounding.

Hey Greener, I sort-a understand your apparent impatience with my apparent extreme impatience. I should have clarified myself. I had posted this same question about a week ago and got no response. Sorry if I seemed like the proverbial "are we there yet?" child. And thanks hueseph for your response. I have Antares' 4 pitch correction in my mac, and it will produce a semblance of a harmonizer when you layer pitch corrected voices. But I will have to talk my "partner-in-crime" into investing in the harmonizer plug-in! That's a tough sale in an area as economically depressed as this! Any other good ones folks? I've tried the "ENSEMBLE" plug-in in Logic and while it's not bad for a freebie, it just doesn't offer any of the subtle things that I've heard are in the good harmonizers. Eventide was one of the models I was hoping to learn about. And honestly Greener, I think that at this point I have disseminated far more info than I've taken in. While my musical experience is limited to roughly 35 yrs, in and around the industry, I always try to freely share anything I'm capable of giving an informed experience of.

I guess I should use the "Americanized" version of my last name if I want any respect on this forum...that would be "Kramer"....Robert W. Kramer!

I think you just need to take some comments with a grain of salt. I think you can discern when a comment comes from experience or just spite.

Regarding the topic: it is likely that you didn't get a lot of comments because there just wasn't anyone with a lot of experience using harmonizers. I know that might sound surprising but I suppose many people here would rather track the vocals over again than use an effect.

"Hey Greener, I sort-a understand your apparent impatience with my apparent extreme impatience."

It's cool, I would have told you if I knew anything. All I knew was you seemed to be getting impatient. Hope you find what you're looking for.

Thanks Greener...I feel just like I did when we were originally starting my studio...I had a ton of questions that most folks just didn't have the answers to. I realize now that like hueseph said, with the exception of major studios, who are notoriously secretive when it comes to sharing recording techniques, most people prolly' just don't have recording experience with gear at that level. Kinda like asking someone to go over the finer points of a digidesign Icon board!

I've mixed on an Icon and I'm not telling you a thing about it so...HYYAAHHHH!

Harmonizers arent really something you should be worrying about unless you are planning a huge multitrack production with a hundred vocal tracks and virtual tracks.

The thickening and the subharmonic content you can get with the antares plug would be more than enough for even the most basic production.

A lot of the things that the engines in a hardware hamonizer like a TC or an Eventide are things that are mostly done in movie sound tracks and sound editing.

The Antares hardware harmonizer is actually quite good but very much a one-trick-pony.