Do you need an AD / DA? No, you already have them.

There is an AD on the input of the VS800. There is a DA on the output of the VS800. Your sound passes an AD in the VS880. There is a DA on the output of the VS880. There is an AD in the CD burner.

So your chain already has three AD-s and 2 DA-s.

Do you need a better converter? Only you can be the judge. There are "better" stuff than the 5 your chain has. It is your ears thought that should be pleased and you wallet that has to pay for it.

Gunnar

eddies880 wrote: Heres my recording chain:
Mic (several types) to preamp(several types))--preamp to Roland VS800--from VS800 (analog out) to Compressors,eqs,processors etc,, back to another VS880 (analog in) for final mixing etc---out from 880s (5 of them) (analog out) to analog console for maybe more comp and eqing,then to cd burner (analog in)

OKay-----where does the converter come in,obviously,the 880s are doing the converting-----or do I need a better converter before the 880s????????????? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
There is no computer in the chain (daw) other than the 880s.

You have too many A/D/A conversions!

Even if you got a better A/D converter for tracking (a good idea) every time you come out (and/or back into) any of your 880s AND the CD recorder you are re-converting...and reconverting...and reconverting. Not a good thing. Not to mention that if you are using the DATA compression to save HD space you'll be making things worse.

If I were you I'd sell all the 880s and get a PC/Mac...with a GOOD A/D/A converter.

DIGIT wrote: [quote=eddies880]Heres my recording chain:
Mic (several types) to preamp(several types))--preamp to Roland VS800--from VS800 (analog out) to Compressors,eqs,processors etc,, back to another VS880 (analog in) for final mixing etc---out from 880s (5 of them) (analog out) to analog console for maybe more comp and eqing,then to cd burner (analog in)

OKay-----where does the converter come in,obviously,the 880s are doing the converting-----or do I need a better converter before the 880s????????????? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
There is no computer in the chain (daw) other than the 880s.

You have too many A/D/A conversions!

Even if you got a better A/D converter for tracking (a good idea) every time you come out (and/or back into) any of your 880s AND the CD recorder you are re-converting...and reconverting...and reconverting. Not a good thing. Not to mention that if you are using the DATA compression to save HD space you'll be making things worse.

If I were you I'd sell all the 880s and get a PC/Mac...with a GOOD A/D/A converter.NO data compression is used on the 880s,,,Ive known for sometime now that I really need to go DAW,with a real nice Rosetta AD-DA converter.
The only time it goes to cd is for final cd.

eddies880 wrote: NO data compression is used on the 880s,,,Ive known for sometime now that I really need to go DAW,with a real nice Rosetta AD-DA converter.
The only time it goes to cd is for final cd.

Don't get too hung up on brand. I find the Lynx Aurora to be a VERY flexible, excellent sounding converter which, IMO bests the Apogee in both sound and price. Especially now that they are available in the 24dB units!

J.

The Roland VS-880 does use a CODEC for data compression, that's why you get twice the rec. time when you switch to MT1, etc...

Argh...the server was stuck for a moment.

You CAN use STD mode which, supposedly, isn't compressed.

DIGIT wrote: Argh...the server was stuck for a moment.

You CAN use STD mode which, supposedly, isn't compressed.

THnks for the response,,,Ive been using master mode on the 880 with much better sound,should of been doing that for some time,but I really need to upgrade to DAW,some day soon---real soon,,,,Ive invested in class A comp,s and preamps,eq,s,but not in a real good converter and a real nice DAW.

DIGIT wrote: The Roland VS-880 does use a CODEC for data compression, that's why you get twice the rec. time when you switch to MT1, etc...

THe 880 has Master mode,MT1,MT2 and live,when I use Master mode,it uses much more memory.
I sure would love to find a computer thats ready to go and loaded with whatever I need to get it done better,hell Ive spent $2800.00 on a Manely Comp,1000.00 on a Sebatron preamp,the list goes on-and-on!,so whats another2 grand? its only money right? :lol: :lol:

IF you are technically inclined...;)...you could build yourself a GREAT PC for about $1,200.00 - You would then add the soundcard/interface and A/D/A of your choice and whatever recording software you'd like to use.

DIGIT wrote: IF you are technically inclined...;)...you could build yourself a GREAT PC for about $1,200.00 - You would then add the soundcard/interface and A/D/A of your choice and whatever recording software you'd like to use.

Ive been so used to Rolands 880s,1680 etc...that I sure would hate to start the hole learning stage again,on the pc.

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Ive been so used to Rolands 880s,1680 etc...that I sure would hate to start the hole learning stage again,on the pc.

that's why the first decision is what prog to use.. if it's closer to what your used to or at least something you can wrap your brain around then the learning curve is greatly diminished and your more likely to stick with it... as to puters them selves i've been talking to scott at adkcomputers and find hem very knowledgeable they can customize and know all the little tweeks necessary to turn it into a beast....

demented, your mom's a beast 8-) j/k hehe

liquidstudios wrote: demented, your mom's a beast 8-) j/k hehe

What's your point?

Your mom sucks in bed.

whoa good one cucco

>>I sure would hate to start the hole learning stage again<<

In that case you might as well forget about engineering. Learning its' what it's ALL about. And, with today's faster tech. changes you either keep up or give up.

Up to you.

dementedchord wrote: [quote=eddies880][.

Ive been so used to Rolands 880s,1680 etc...that I sure would hate to start the hole learning stage again,on the pc.

that's why the first decision is what prog to use.. if it's closer to what your used to or at least something you can wrap your brain around then the learning curve is greatly diminished and your more likely to stick with it... as to puters them selves i've been talking to scott at adkcomputers and find hem very knowledgeable they can customize and know all the little tweeks necessary to turn it into a beast....Its not the pc Im worried about,its the software,but,its like any other thing I get involved in,if I like it,,Ill dig myself in so deep into it,that,that I become obssessed with it,until Ive figured it out.