Take it from someone who plays speed punk: faster, more ergonomical pedals usually just make the pedals gummier. I still like my speed king, and that pedal is the most difficult pedal I've ever used. I like it beause of the dynamic control and superb articulation it offers. Pedals that offer increased speed or ease of operation sacrifice the feel. Sure, they're easy to play on, but they aren't easy to squeze dynamics out of. I also like to be able to use a pedal's momentum in some cases, and I also like to snap the pedal into the drum for certain hits, both of which are nigh impossible with "improved" pedals.

On the topic of weird drum pedals, there's this one: http://thedualist.com/. And these ones: http://www.axispercussion.com/. Special drum pedals are for people who wish they could play speed punk. :D 8)

The dualist link doesn't work, I'll backward search. The other thing, the Axis, looks weird. I'd be keen to see if it's any smoother with that redesigned cam.
I grew up with a set of double pedals made from Chinese pig metal, the bearings collapsed so fast, it was like running uphill. The left pedal needed to be stomped about twice as hard as the right just due to mechanical friction, this didn't help my development. I have had it up to here with "feel" I want something smoother than butter.

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I can play thrash metal. Speed punk is like lolly-pop compared to. :P
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I grew up with a set of double pedals made from Chinese pig metal, the bearings collapsed so fast, it was like running uphill. The left pedal needed to be stomped about twice as hard as the right just due to mechanical friction, this didn't help my development. I have had it up to here with "feel" I want something smoother than butter.

Haha. That brings back the memories of my first pedal: leather strap with one of those soft, felt beaters. The pedal would get ahead of the leather strap if you played fast enough. :lol: :shock:

I can play thrash metal. Speed punk is like lolly-pop compared to.

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And just how many bpm's are you talking about? I'm talking music upwards of 260 bpm's with absolutely no breaks. Playing 10 2-3 minute songs in a row like that is something metal drummers only dream about. Metal and thrash drummers play really stiffly and quickly for about 10 seconds, 15 seconds tops, and then have to switch to an easier beat. :roll:
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Lol, I've heard your tapping it's fast, judging from your pics you weigh as much as my left ankle and F=MA all the way, you still wont be heard over me. :P
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I checked out the Dualist stuff, still not what I think my mate was on about. It's more two curved bars with a bearing joining them, one is connected to the pedal the other to the axle the beater is on. It should combine the smoothness of belt drive with the no stretch-ness of dual chain.

Drums are for sissies.

Bahahahaha.

No, I've always wanted to learn. But I don't have a set. Or even a single drum. Sad face.

Axis

I always like the Axis long board pedals. by Skipping your foot you can get speeds up to that of a double bass pedal. ANd if you good you could use one of their double bass pedals and man can you get some hits out of them.

The entire pedal is cams without any chain, and the spring if maintained will give you some wicker pull back.

The problem with them is they feel completly different than a regualr drum pedal. Very mechanical that natural drop isn't really there.

Oh yeah!
I think that's it!

I'm going to find them and insist on a fair crack.

Thanks for the awesome find.

And cheers NCdan for linking that previously. Somehow I remember looking at it but never getting a look-see at the cam arrangement.

/Edit: Yes I do need to be told twice, always have and unfortunately probably always will. Cheers though. ;)

Hey guys, I changed the name of the thread to "Drum Pedals." The old title made sense when the forum was created, but I think this one will be more useful now. If you think of something more creative that still gets the point across, feel free to change it.

well it seems as though the pedal problem is solved but I'd throw the Trick pedals in there also.

http://www.trickdrums.com/

Not really for me though, I will probably die with my tama iron cobra and dw-5000 pedals. I fear switching to these "ergo" pedals will only decrease sensitivity and nuance.

I fear switching to these "ergo" pedals will only decrease sensitivity and nuance.

Heck, I have a DW4000 pedal that came with Yamaha ekit, and that thing is so smooth it makes me sick. When I first started using it I would actually hit in double time on accident sometimes, and we're talking playing upwards of 230 bpm. Speed King all the way for me. Well... that's what I would say if I wasn't fat and out of shape when it comes to drumming. But, I just sort of gave up on dynamics since it's an ekit and the DW4000 works fine. 8)