Please someone........ I really need to know.

I believe that there is no way for you to do that with Reason since there is no input to the interface except for MIDI.

If you wanna do it with Reason you have to write the MIDI notes yourself in a MIDI track where you see the hits in your Kick track or snare or whatever you want to replace.

A great plugin that you can use would be SoundReplacer. I used several times and it fixes the drums in a great way. I recorded a Reason combination of drums and I got a great solid sound that I replaced using SoundReplacer. With that plugin you can actually chose 3 different velocities so to make it sound very natural.

Cheers, Bas.

you could send the drums out individual direct outputs
and then input them to something like an Alesis D4
and have it write the midi notes
during a play-out ... midi record-in pass

Thanks for the replies, It´s not vital for me to convert audio to midi in this case, it was an option I was considering, I just want to edit/replace some drum sounds. Do you think it would be better to get drumagog or soundreplacer?

thanks

SoundReplacer is pretty cool,
and saves much time compared to placing the samples individualy

both methods can work
only you can decide what works for you
try the demo of soundreplacer

The D4 requires a bit of comitment to midi and all that goes with it
I'm a midi user so I feel comfortable with it and it's pitfalls
you have a midi port ?

Hi Kev, yes I do have a midi port, I have an oxygen 8 controller which I run through reason (via Digi002). Ive never used the D4, I should give it a try, someone around here should have one. Im very interested in starting to use drum triggers which im not familiar with, but im very interested in those, so next time instead of trying to replace a complete waveform sound I should use triggers which could give more possibilities to edit afterwards.

I've checked some ddrum triggers on the web. Apart from these, what else do I need to trigger some drums?

supercharry wrote: Hi Kev, yes I do have a midi port,.... Im very interested in starting to use drum triggers.
... Apart from these, what else do I need to trigger some drums?

cool
then I would suggest borrowing a D4 ... or better

Midi drums is a tuff gig for many reasons.
All synth gear is expensive and is outdated on a daily basis.

The 002 midi port is OK to start with but do expect to get something better and larger if the mid bug bites you.

It is possible to get started with drum triggering with just the oxygen 8 controller.
Use your fingers to play a simple kick/snare ... and perhaps a HiHat hat pattern and record the midi notes and the Reason Drums samples at the same time.

You may experience the midi latency AND the audio latency that WILL happen.

we can talk about how to manage it.

If you get a D4 we can talk about some cheap DIY drum triggers so you can start experimenting with a few of my techniques ... techniques aimed at surviving with gear that is not perfect. NON of this gear is perfect but we can work around the problems.

search through some of the old drum and midi stuff here at RO

It is possible to get started with drum triggering with just the oxygen 8 controller.
Use your fingers to play a simple kick/snare ... and perhaps a HiHat hat pattern and record the midi notes and the Reason Drums samples at the same time.

Thanks Kev. I do know how to drum trigger with the controller via Reson, just select the audio samples in Redrum and play the keyboard. However my interest is to trigger an acoustic drum set to be able to mix with both midi and audio info, that should give more possibilities for a specific wanted sound.

Im looking forward to borrow something such as de D4 or similar to get started with it, in the end the best way to learn is to try it yourself.

Thanks for all the advice.

supercharry wrote: .... However my interest is to trigger an acoustic drum set to be able to mix with both midi and audio info, that should give more possibilities for a specific wanted sound.

YES
I know that
BUT
you can start right now and actually do a dummy run with just two fingers
AND
attempt to do an over-dub into one of your existing songs.

Feel, See and Hear some of the troubles and latencies that will only get worse when the Trigger to Midi unit does arrive.

I tend to use the D4 sounds for monitoring even though I don't use them in the final song.
It is like hardware monitoring while doing a vocal O/D and not monitoring through the 001 or 002.

Ok, I can do that with some old projects to train myself in the meantime. However the reason that made me start thinking about triggers is a metal song, and that would be very hard to follow with my fingers!! :roll:

But yes, I can start to get the feel of triggering.

thanks for all the advice... :D

Kev, I have another question...... I was thinking it might not be necessary to get some drum triggers, you said a few replies ago that I could output the existing audio and input it back through a D4 or D5 to make it write the midi notes..... thinking of it this way, is it still necessary to purchase some triggers? What I could do is record the drumset in normal audio and then re-record the bdrum and/or snare through the D4/D5.

Could I be right on this?

Metal Drums
Trigger to Midi
:shock:
could be on of the hardest thing to do with midi drums ... especially snare
cymbals ... forget about it
and
kick will tend to get that machine gun thing
but toms and as back-up or supporting samples, it could help

As for the audio to trigger
NO all you need is outputs from the DAW interface.
Might be tricky to level match BUT it is all possible.
Will probably need to attenuate the DAW output to a level nearer triggers.

unbalanced cable and a trim pot could be all you need

Well about the Metal drums, what I meant is not to replace the whole audio track into midi. What I thought was to use the audio tracks, and some midi tracks (backups) for the Bdrum and Snare (selecting some samples in Redrum), I thought that would give more chances to get a specific wanted sound. I dont know, might be bull**it.

I made a post about Metal Drums a while ago, and lots of people started to talk about triggers, so thats where I started to wonder about them. Whats with the triggers and Metal drums then? What´s the exact thing for me to do?

just that metal drums is a tuff gig

pop music with a simple repeated 1/4 note loop sort of thing is very easy
and cheap triggers and less equipment can work very well

Do exactly what I have said above
start experimenting with what you have ... with fingers
then get a D4 on loan and make some cheap adapter cables to try the audio to trigger/midi set-up

All I'm saying is
DON"T dive into midi drums and expect to produce speed metal panteera slip whatever on your first attempt

I've been midi drumming since Symond's shit and I'm now in V-drum trigger world and have a D4
although it is great ... it is far from perfect and does require discipline from the drummer

Thanks Kev, Im very pleased with all your replies. This Post hast been very useful to me. Thanks a lot once again. I wont expect great results, but Ill try to learn the most.

speaking of reason..

I wish reason had an audio input from re-wire.

That scream 4 thing is unreal. If only there were a rtas/tdm/vst plug of that.. i would be very happy. :(