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Hey.. I created an account to talk to the pros, you guys, I need help ASAP..
it's been about a year since it started doing this and I dunno what to do anymore... I am so frustrated I dont even know what to call this sound and it seems I am the only one getting this issue

I've tried fixing grounding (nothing) I checked components inside my PC (Nothing) I've aisolated noise and take all electric gadgets away from the Mic and PC, I've tried Windows settings I've tried plugin the Mic in another PC (that works) I tried plugin the same mic (but from my friend) in the PC and it still makes the same noise...
I can't seem to fix it and its been going on for ever I should say that I found it louder when my PC is under heavy load
I've been thinking it could be related to the PSU or something like that.. if so.. how do I fix it Please!

Samson Meteor USB Condenser MIC

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pcrecord Fri, 07/21/2017 - 05:48

You've come ask the PROs how to fix a 69$ mic... lol
First make sure you've chosen the mic as a recording source in your software and not windows (what you hear) option.
Second, be sure to talk to the front of the mic between 6 & 9 inches. (this will force you to lower the volume of the mic to get proper levels and therefor lower the noise level.

Second, this isn't a recipe for success. USB mics are often discussed here which indicates they aren't the best choice.
I would check for an external audio interface and an xlr mic. (Ex focusrite 2i2 and SM58)

Keith Johnson Fri, 07/21/2017 - 07:04

pcrecord, post: 451423, member: 46460 wrote: You've come ask the PROs how to fix a 69$ mic... lol

Why not? Surely they'd be best placed to help? ;)

The last time I came across something like this, I seem to remember it being diagnosed as something like internal groundloops between the computer components...or something like that...it was in the PC forum on sound on sound...in which case there's likely not much you can do about it...meaning that the external interface option may be the way forwards if you absolutely must use that computer.

Dilsoc Fri, 07/21/2017 - 11:03

pcrecord, post: 451423, member: 46460 wrote: You've come ask the PROs how to fix a 69$ mic... lol
First make sure you've chosen the mic as a recording source in your software and not windows (what you hear) option.
Second, be sure to talk to the front of the mic between 6 & 9 inches. (this will force you to lower the volume of the mic to get proper levels and therefor lower the noise level.

Second, this isn't a recipe for success. USB mics are often discussed here which indicates they aren't the best choice.
I would check for an external audio interface and an xlr mic. (Ex focusrite 2i2 and SM58)

I have done that, it is infront of me and the recording I sent is at a 100% so you could tell me what the sound is... since it's a wierd sound I dont even know h ow to describe yesterday I heard some people calling it "beeping"
the Mic is cheap but its the best on that price range since as I said works fine in other PC's etc but other Mics dont work in my PC I dont want to lower that noise what ever it is, I want to REMOVE IT

Dilsoc Fri, 07/21/2017 - 11:08

Keith Johnson, post: 451424, member: 49792 wrote: Why not? Surely they'd be best placed to help? ;)

The last time I came across something like this, I seem to remember it being diagnosed as something like internal groundloops between the computer components...or something like that...it was in the PC forum on sound on sound...in which case there's likely not much you can do about it...meaning that the external interface option may be the way forwards if you absolutely must use that computer.

I dont understand what could be causing it I've checked all my components I fixed grounding from the outlets and my PC is 3 years old but it is still a monster.. sorry an external interface? do you mean such as audacity or any of those?

if I bought an AudioTechnica AT2020 fix that or would I still have that terrible sound?

Dilsoc Fri, 07/21/2017 - 11:15

Kurt Foster, post: 451432, member: 7836 wrote: it sounds like room and fan noise to me. move them ic as far away from the PC as you can and see if that brings the noise down.

tho you can hear those through the mic they aren't so loud, my main issue is that I can hear some type of static cracking and beeping all at the same time

kmetal Fri, 07/21/2017 - 21:03

sounds like a blue tooth, network card, or cell phone to me. could even be RFI. not exactly sure if it is that, but those can sound similar. even something else on the usb bus could cause noise. several ports could be on the same bus, which is common. if you haven't done the computer OS optimization / setting adjustments common for audio computers, it would be a great place to start. I don't have the link handy but there's a pretty recent thread here about the topic, with great links and insight.

Dilsoc Fri, 07/21/2017 - 21:44

I installed Samson's Sound deck wich helped me reduce the noise but I can still hear it not terrible but its.. annoying to say the least, but it gets louder when I am doing some heavy process, I know its not Phones or etc cause I've removed all but, when I unplug my USB Wifi Adapter the sound reduces a bit or at least I think it is, but I dont think thats the issue, I was thinking Dirt in the PSU CPU or even GPU but I've clean them over and over, maybe badly enough to not change a thing..
I will look for that Computer OS optimization thing.. let you know how it works thanks...

Dilsoc Fri, 07/21/2017 - 22:02

kmetal, post: 451440, member: 37533 wrote: sounds like a blue tooth, network card, or cell phone to me. could even be RFI. not exactly sure if it is that, but those can sound similar. even something else on the usb bus could cause noise. several ports could be on the same bus, which is common. if you haven't done the computer OS optimization / setting adjustments common for audio computers, it would be a great place to start. I don't have the link handy but there's a pretty recent thread here about the topic, with great links and insight.

I can't seem to find anything, could you provide a link to me please?

DonnyThompson Sat, 07/22/2017 - 08:25

1, don't trust the built in soundcard/ interface in your computer. They are cheap and are not made or meant for what you want to do.
2. Look at getting an external audio interface and mic preamp. You can get into one-channel USB audio interfaces for under $100.
Presonus and Focusrite are good places to start.

3. Take the USB mic back and get a cheap condenser. The AT2020 is around $50, I think. You'll also need an XLR mic cable to connect the mic to your external device. The 2020 is Not even close to "pro" by any means, but you'll be able to get the signal into your recording program with a lot better (and quieter) quality than what you're getting now ...by connecting it to the external USB interface.

4. Condenser mics - like the AT2020 - require 48v phantom power to work. Most, ( if not all) external mic pre/ interfaces have this phantom power, switchable to on/off. Remember to make sure the phantom power button is on when using a condenser mic.

Finally, From now on, check with us before you buy something. It'll save you a great deal of BS in the future.

-d

Dilsoc Sat, 07/22/2017 - 19:33

dvdhawk, post: 451453, member: 36047 wrote: You've made a couple video game references so far, are you recording music, or using this mic for comms while gaming?

Really? sorry didn't notice I am a gamer at heart, I record my voice while playing videogames, and podcasts, I am planning on doing music when ever I get to fix this and buy better equipment

Dilsoc Sat, 07/22/2017 - 19:34

DonnyThompson, post: 451449, member: 46114 wrote: 1, don't trust the built in soundcard/ interface in your computer. They are cheap and are not made or meant for what you want to do.
2. Look at getting an external audio interface and mic preamp. You can get into one-channel USB audio interfaces for under $100.
Presonus and Focusrite are good places to start.

3. Take the USB mic back and get a cheap condenser. The AT2020 is around $50, I think. You'll also need an XLR mic cable to connect the mic to your external device. The 2020 is Not even close to "pro" by any means, but you'll be able to get the signal into your recording program with a lot better (and quieter) quality than what you're getting now ...by connecting it to the external USB interface.

4. Condenser mics - like the AT2020 - require 48v phantom power to work. Most, ( if not all) external mic pre/ interfaces have this phantom power, switchable to on/off. Remember to make sure the phantom power button is on when using a condenser mic.

Finally, From now on, check with us before you buy something. It'll save you a great deal of BS in the future.

-d

Ok.. well wont fix the issue I have right now but it sure is good to know all of this.. I will start saving up then.. thanks

DonnyThompson Sun, 07/23/2017 - 04:04

Try this:
Hook up your USB Samson to your computer.
Now, go to Control Panel/Audio to make sure your system is seeing the USB mic on the list of available audio devices.
Look to see which audio/sound driver is set for default for your system.
If any other devices/drivers are selected, disable them and select the Samson USB mic as your system default.
Open your DAW program ( Audacity, Sonar, Reason, Presonus, etc, whatever you're using ; and make sure that your Recording program is recognizing the Samson USB Mic as an audio input / output source.
Somewhere in your recording software you'll find "settings for audio", or "audio configuration" or something similarly named.
Open this and set your Record buffers for 128.
Set your playback buffers for 512.
(This is a starting position setting, you may need to increase both sets of buffers depending on your PC specs).
Record a vocal, play it back, and see what happens, then tell us. Provide audio if there are still issues.
-d.

pcrecord Sun, 07/23/2017 - 05:39

Dilsoc, post: 451463, member: 50717 wrote: Ok.. well wont fix the issue I have right now but it sure is good to know all of this.. I will start saving up then.. thanks

Sorry sir, but having a proper audio interface and better mic WILL make a BIG difference in the quality. Donny gave you very valid points.
Also, if you are driving the microphone to maximum, it's probably where the noise is being generated to begin with.
Lower the gain, get closer to the mic see if it makes any difference.

You should know that most RO members can say 'Been there, done that' when they read you question.
We are taking the time in hope you are willing to do what it takes to make your sound better.

Why don't you post a recording of your voice so we can hear the noise in context.

DogsoverLava Sun, 07/23/2017 - 21:21

pcrecord, post: 451482, member: 46460 wrote: Interesting ?? doesn't it activate only with two video cards ??

If you have an SLI equipped motherboard I think you have to disable it in the BIOS regardless of one or two cards. My MB had a notorious issue with noise like this and it was the SLI (and I only had one card installed) -- plus a few other tweaks I made that solved it (most having to do with disabling power save settings like C1E & EIST in BIOS) but I pass this along because I remembered what I had to do.

Dilsoc Sat, 01/20/2018 - 15:41

pcrecord, post: 451474, member: 46460 wrote: Sorry sir, but having a proper audio interface and better mic WILL make a BIG difference in the quality. Donny gave you very valid points.
Also, if you are driving the microphone to maximum, it's probably where the noise is being generated to begin with.
Lower the gain, get closer to the mic see if it makes any difference.

You should know that most RO members can say 'Been there, done that' when they read you question.
We are taking the time in hope you are willing to do what it takes to make your sound better.

Why don't you post a recording of your voice so we can hear the noise in context.

Sorry sir I meant I DONT HAVE MONEY TO DO THAT as much as I would like to, I'ld buy myself an audio technica AT 2020 and a really good audio interface, I would buy a whole new PC if I could but as of now I have to fix what I have
"driving" the microphone? audio is set to 60.. of course it makes a difference but I am not as loud as I would like to
I appreaciate what you guys do, why am I being put out as if I said something negative?

Dilsoc Sat, 01/20/2018 - 15:42

DogsoverLava, post: 451486, member: 48175 wrote: If you have an SLI equipped motherboard I think you have to disable it in the BIOS regardless of one or two cards. My MB had a notorious issue with noise like this and it was the SLI (and I only had one card installed) -- plus a few other tweaks I made that solved it (most having to do with disabling power save settings like C1E & EIST in BIOS) but I pass this along because I remembered what I had to do.

I dont have a SLI equipped motherboard, I am definietly sure it is the GPU since the noise INTENSIFIES when I am processing a video and I process videos with the GPU

pcrecord Sat, 01/20/2018 - 18:39

Dilsoc, post: 455296, member: 50717 wrote: Sorry sir I meant I DONT HAVE MONEY TO DO THAT as much as I would like to, I'ld buy myself an audio technica AT 2020 and a really good audio interface, I would buy a whole new PC if I could but as of now I have to fix what I have

I feel for you. I'm sorry you can't access better gear.
Nonetheless, a lot of budget gear aren't cut to all task and some would be to toy level in my opinion.
When I'm in the worst situation with audio I try to find the sweet spot of what I use.
For exemple, being closer to a mic when signing to lower the gain on the mic/preamp.
So you need to experiment and find your recipe.
Feel free to add more samples of your progress.. I'll try to help..

Dilsoc Sat, 01/20/2018 - 20:38

pcrecord, post: 455300, member: 46460 wrote: I feel for you. I'm sorry you can't access better gear.
Nonetheless, a lot of budget gear aren't cut to all task and some would be to toy level in my opinion.
When I'm in the worst situation with audio I try to find the sweet spot of what I use.
For exemple, being closer to a mic when signing to lower the gain on the mic/preamp.
So you need to experiment and find your recipe.
Feel free to add more samples of your progress.. I'll try to help..

thank you, now.. I've manage to do most of the things with the audio decker (wich is the software my samson uses to do "noise reduction") and I record my voice in audacity to add some mmore noise reduction wich kinda works.. but again when I am under heavy GPU process it sounds awful, and streaming is out of the question since OBS doesnt allow me to do noise reduction either

DonnyThompson Sun, 01/21/2018 - 04:51

When using cheap gear, you have to have lowered expectations. As Marco (pcrecord ) mentioned, driving cheap preamps will most commonly result in increased noise. The reason they are cheap is because the manufacturers are using cheap components to keep it cheap in price.
Using cheap gear will always result in having to fix problems and work arounds that very often don't "work" at all.
You are experiencing the negatives of using cheap equipment. Whether it's the preamp, interface or mic you are using, or all of the above, You have to keep a level of expectation that is realistic. I understand you have budget constraints, we all do, really. But you have to know - and accept - that cheaply made equipment will only ever give you a cheap sounding quality. There's really nothing more I can say about this...it is what it is. Myself nor any of the other veterans and pros here can't make your cheap gear any better than it is.
I wish you luck. :)

pcrecord Sun, 01/21/2018 - 05:42

Dilsoc, post: 455301, member: 50717 wrote: thank you, now.. I've manage to do most of the things with the audio decker (wich is the software my samson uses to do "noise reduction") and I record my voice in audacity to add some mmore noise reduction wich kinda works.. but again when I am under heavy GPU process it sounds awful, and streaming is out of the question since OBS doesnt allow me to do noise reduction either

If CPU or the GPU usage modify the sound, it could be that the voltage of the USB port drops. Can't remember in the thread if you tried other usb ports ...
An external USB Hub with dedicated DC power would eliminate this risk.. But It can influence the speed of the data transfer. Althought Just one mic may not be speed sensitive that much.
Just thinking here...

Dilsoc Sun, 01/21/2018 - 12:10

pcrecord, post: 455308, member: 46460 wrote: If CPU or the GPU usage modify the sound, it could be that the voltage of the USB port drops. Can't remember in the thread if you tried other usb ports ...
An external USB Hub with dedicated DC power would eliminate this risk.. But It can influence the speed of the data transfer. Althought Just one mic may not be speed sensitive that much.
Just thinking here...

Well I did tried to plug the MIC in various USB ports and a HUB but.. nothing

Dilsoc Sun, 01/21/2018 - 12:12

DonnyThompson, post: 455304, member: 46114 wrote: When using cheap gear, you have to have lowered expectations. As Marco (pcrecord ) mentioned, driving cheap preamps will most commonly result in increased noise. The reason they are cheap is because the manufacturers are using cheap components to keep it cheap in price.
Using cheap gear will always result in having to fix problems and work arounds that very often don't "work" at all.
You are experiencing the negatives of using cheap equipment. Whether it's the preamp, interface or mic you are using, or all of the above, You have to keep a level of expectation that is realistic. I understand you have budget constraints, we all do, really. But you have to know - and accept - that cheaply made equipment will only ever give you a cheap sounding quality. There's really nothing more I can say about this...it is what it is. Myself nor any of the other veterans and pros here can't make your cheap gear any better than it is.
I wish you luck. :)

but it used to work, and the mic works perfectly in any other computer I do believe its my GPU (wich is not a bad one) or the MOBO PCI slot for the GPU.. the mic is the best on that price

DogsoverLava Sun, 01/21/2018 - 17:49

Dilsoc, post: 455336, member: 50717 wrote: MOBO is a Cheap gigabyte ga-h61m-s1 and the GPU is an EVGA 750Ti SC

What revisions? (both boards) and what BIOS/Firmware?

Guys-- or anyone reading this. If you want help - particularly with equipment or computer stuff -- give us ALL the details up front. For motherboards that means the board name AND revision no.

KurtFoster Sun, 01/21/2018 - 18:18

pcrecord, post: 455342, member: 46460 wrote: A good dust removal from fans and heatsink may as well. Heat surprisingly affect computer performances.

that's the truth. my computer was crashing several times a day when i ran LinCity on it. i found a can of air in the shop and shot some air in to the vents and surprise surprise, it runs like it's brand new computer.

audiokid Sun, 01/21/2018 - 18:31

pcrecord, post: 455342, member: 46460 wrote: I doubt the OP will buy another computer since being unable to buy a proper mic and interface. . .
Firmware revision may lead to something
A good dust removal from fans and heatsink may as well. Heat surprisingly affect computer performances.

My suggestion is not to buy a computer but to look through their specs. Its all transparent info and they make the best PC around. If you are wanting to know what to use, I always see what they use.

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