Submitted by Guitarfreak
on Mon, 03/23/2009 - 17:50
Is there one that exists for a decent price? And why are there such big differences in price? It's a meter...It's a single function device, so why do some go for $30 and some for $150?
Some of the $30 models I've seen spec out that they're accurate within ±3.5 dB. Most of the other cheaper models, don't even give that spec. Are they more accurate or hiding something?
Theoretically you should be paying more for more accuracy.
Wow, so I guess a meter isn't always a good meter? Then again music is a fluid science not a mathematical one. I've heard of software that could do the same thing. Does anybody know how reliable these are and what is needed?
I am just trying to get a feel for the SPL in my room when I record guitar. Whether or not I am endangering my hearing or not and etc.
BTW: No I don't crank the amps up as a starting point for recording, but loud enough. (I've read the Slipperman article, so I use that as a foundation.)
You should be able to find a fairly reliable one for $50 or thereabouts.
I've had an old analog one from Radio Shack that I got back in the early 80's - It still works like a champ. I have a cute cheap little digital $30 - one of the ±3.5dB deals. And I have a Phonic PAA3 that I use a lot in my day to day work.
The problem you'll have with any software meter is, what would you calibrate it to? You need a calibrated mic and specifically calibrated amp.
Do your ears ring after you've been playing guitar for a while? If they do, it's a warning.
Safe exposure is a combination of sound level and duration. It's cumulative, so the older you get the worse it will get.
Here's a graph of OSHA's recommended maximum exposure:
ALSO: If you play live, I'm a big fan of the Westone or Etymotic Research ER15 custom molded earplugs. They're not cheap, but I'd probably be deaf as a post if I hadn't started wearing them almost 20 years ago.
If the source does not have a lot of low end engery, like your guitar, A will work just fine.
The better meter offer more weighting options with a tighter tolerences. You can spend more the 5k on a SPL meter if you want.
Many Software pacakges are great, but you will need a flat mic,neutral preamp, and neutral ADC to ensure your signal going to the software is accurate.
Don't forget that the iPhone has a SPL meter function, too. And I compared it against one of my old RS analogs, and they were within a dB of each other! The iPhone is 'way cooler, though...
I assumed that it was part of the deal. The iPhone I was referring to is owned by the keyboardist at church. He thumbed through a couple of screens and this popped up...
My wife has a level in her iphone too...pretty cool little phone.... anyway a cheap sound meter will give a prefectly acceptable relative measurement...
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Some of the $30 models I've seen spec out that they're accurate
Some of the $30 models I've seen spec out that they're accurate within ±3.5 dB. Most of the other cheaper models, don't even give that spec. Are they more accurate or hiding something?
Theoretically you should be paying more for more accuracy.
Wow, so I guess a meter isn't always a good meter? Then again m
Wow, so I guess a meter isn't always a good meter? Then again music is a fluid science not a mathematical one. I've heard of software that could do the same thing. Does anybody know how reliable these are and what is needed?
I am just trying to get a feel for the SPL in my room when I record guitar. Whether or not I am endangering my hearing or not and etc.
BTW: No I don't crank the amps up as a starting point for recording, but loud enough. (I've read the Slipperman article, so I use that as a foundation.)
Any advice?
You should be able to find a fairly reliable one for $50 or ther
You should be able to find a fairly reliable one for $50 or thereabouts.
I've had an old analog one from Radio Shack that I got back in the early 80's - It still works like a champ. I have a cute cheap little digital $30 - one of the ±3.5dB deals. And I have a Phonic PAA3 that I use a lot in my day to day work.
If I could just have one, it would be the analog.
http://www.radioshack.com/search/index.jsp?kwCatId=&kw=sound%20level%20meter&origkw=sound%20level%20meter&sr=1
http://www.phonic.com/en/testers/paa3.html
Lavry Black DA11
http://www.parts-express.com/wizards/searchResults.cfm?FTR=&search_type=main&WebPage_ID=3&searchFilter=sound+level+meter&x=0&y=0
The problem you'll have with any software meter is, what would you calibrate it to? You need a calibrated mic and specifically calibrated amp.
Do your ears ring after you've been playing guitar for a while? If they do, it's a warning.
Safe exposure is a combination of sound level and duration. It's cumulative, so the older you get the worse it will get.
Here's a graph of OSHA's recommended maximum exposure:
http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/erme-ihp.aspx
ALSO: If you play live, I'm a big fan of the Westone or Etymotic Research ER15 custom molded earplugs. They're not cheap, but I'd probably be deaf as a post if I hadn't started wearing them almost 20 years ago.
Read a bit about A-weighting..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Read a bit about A-weighting.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-weighting
Most cheap meters have A and C weighting.
If the source does not have a lot of low end engery, like your guitar, A will work just fine.
The better meter offer more weighting options with a tighter tolerences. You can spend more the 5k on a SPL meter if you want.
Many Software pacakges are great, but you will need a flat mic,neutral preamp, and neutral ADC to ensure your signal going to the software is accurate.
Don't forget that the iPhone has a SPL meter function, too. And
Don't forget that the iPhone has a SPL meter function, too. And I compared it against one of my old RS analogs, and they were within a dB of each other! The iPhone is 'way cooler, though...
lol an iPhone? Sweet now I'll only have to pay a couple hundred
lol an iPhone? Sweet now I'll only have to pay a couple hundred for an SPL meter. lol
moonbaby, is that a free app or do you have to buy it? I kinda
moonbaby, is that a free app or do you have to buy it?
I kinda want a SPL meter and the guy who runs visuals at our Church has an iPhone...
I assumed that it was part of the deal. The iPhone I was referri
I assumed that it was part of the deal. The iPhone I was referring to is owned by the keyboardist at church. He thumbed through a couple of screens and this popped up...
My wife has a level in her iphone too...pretty cool little phone
My wife has a level in her iphone too...pretty cool little phone.... anyway a cheap sound meter will give a prefectly acceptable relative measurement...
I appear to have found this app: http://web.me.com/studio.six/sp
I appear to have found this app:
http://web.me.com/studio.six/spl.html
Looks quite nice, can anyone post the price on it?
I'm not installing iTunes just to get a price.
Hello Codemonkey, The price is $5.99
Hello Codemonkey,
The price is $5.99 USD soon going up to $7.99
Look nice. If you have an iPhone that is.
Excellent, thanks. That's quite reasonable when you think of it
Excellent, thanks.
That's quite reasonable when you think of it - even if it is a little off.