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JLiRD808 6 January 2007

Just wondering what you guys think. I'm doing my own comparisons online also.

What are some of the different tools on each that you guys found especially useful? What is the SL3 "Hybrid" version?

I do basic audio and midi single-track recording, editing, and am learning to do some mastering. I've been using Cubase SE for about a year now and am thinking of upgrading.

Thanks!

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hueseph Sat, 01/06/2007 - 19:51

Are you finding that SE is limiting you? If not, why upgrade? That's just my personal opinion. If you're not doing more than 32 tracks or if 32 of audio seems plenty to you then I personally think the upgrade is a waste of money. Spend your money on a nice mic or a half decent pre-amp. That'll be fare more usefull than the handful of improvements of a higher end software.

JLiRD808 Sat, 01/06/2007 - 22:06

I don't know I've been finding em pretty cheap around town...

I can get the educational version Studio 4 since I'm a student and I'm starting to see SX/SL3 deals all over the place now, EBAY included.

I get your point though and I'm definitely gonna keep that in mind. I've been reading some of the features offered on ALL of these versions and they have lots of things I'm missing. I can't freeze, no audio or time warp, no stacked recording... I see some other things that would help my CPU out and enhance my workflow but, u're right, maybe not worth the money...

I guess I'll keep everyone posted on whether I upgrade or not.

Any other comments on this?

hueseph Sun, 01/07/2007 - 00:37

JLiRD808 wrote: I can't freeze, no audio or time warp, no stacked recording...

In the Audio menu select "Freeze Edits". That will save all parameters to your audio file or a new audio file if you wish.

Time stretching: page 238 of the operational manual.

This function IS supported in SE.

Stacked recording: Are you referring to recording in Cycle mode? This is where you are able to record several takes over an section of a song and then choose between or even meld takes. Page 32 of the Operational manual.

JLiRD808 Mon, 01/08/2007 - 07:11

hueseph wrote: In the Audio menu select "Freeze Edits". That will save all parameters to your audio file or a new audio file if you wish.

Time stretching: page 238 of the operational manual.

This function IS supported in SE.

Stacked recording: Are you referring to recording in Cycle mode? This is where you are able to record several takes over an section of a song and then choose between or even meld takes. Page 32 of the Operational manual.

Ok I never knew this but I'm not sure if that's right. Especially "freezing".

WaveLab

I'll try go thru the manual again when I have time but I swore these were missing in SE.

Cresta wrote: just keep in mind this: LE and SE project files CANNOT BE OPENED by SL/SX.

Are you sure? Steinberg always says how easy it is to upgrade to SX/SL but my Project files will not be able to be transferred? I swore I read that u could somewhere. AGain, I gotta look it up. Even so I wouldn't mind starting over. My SE projects I would say are pretty much done.

JLiRD808 Mon, 01/08/2007 - 07:12

hueseph wrote: In the Audio menu select "Freeze Edits". That will save all parameters to your audio file or a new audio file if you wish.

Time stretching: page 238 of the operational manual.

This function IS supported in SE.

Stacked recording: Are you referring to recording in Cycle mode? This is where you are able to record several takes over an section of a song and then choose between or even meld takes. Page 32 of the Operational manual.

Ok I never knew this but I'm not sure if that's right. Especially "freezing".

WaveLab

I'll try go thru the manual again when I have time but I swore these were missing in SE.

Cresta wrote: just keep in mind this: LE and SE project files CANNOT BE OPENED by SL/SX.

Are you sure? Steinberg always says how easy it is to upgrade to SX/SL but my Project files will not be able to be transferred? I swore I read that u could somewhere. AGain, I gotta look it up. Even so I wouldn't mind starting over. My SE projects I would say are pretty much done which is why I'm in the upgrading transition phase.

anonymous Wed, 01/10/2007 - 08:06

Apropos the general question. Santa upgraded me from SL2 to CS4 at Christmas. I'm a long time member of cubase.net forums and the general consensus appears to be:

1. The new mediabay / track present handling is excellent, but "unfinished".
2. There are complaints of CPU "spiking" and overloads (I share this experience)
3. The new VST3 software developers kit is not sheduled for release till later in the year, so third party plugins won't be updated by vendors for some time to come.
4. The GUI colour scheme is giving some folks the blues.

Generally, experienced Cubase users appear to be very happy, whereas others tend to have more complaints. It's an early release so it has it's bugs and bug fixes. Nothing new there in the DAW world.

I like it and don't regret the upgrade. I do a lot of audio editing and that part is fabulous.

anonymous Thu, 01/11/2007 - 09:06

It's a tough choice, and it really depends on which features you want. SX3 is going to have some of the more advanced features that Studio 4 won't have. These are nice, but perhaps not necessary. On the other hand, Studio 4 has some great new features that you will miss out on if you stick with SX3, like the improved score editor, which might not be an issue if you never have need of that function anyway - but it is nice. Also, do you have any other production software, like Reason, Sonar, etc...? If so, you can get the cubase 4 crossgrade version, which would drop your price down to $200 USD for studio 4 and about $435 USD for the full version. These are fully functional and you can market music with them legally, unlike the educational versions, and all you need is to previously own any competing audio production software.

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