Maybee you get wrong information... I have some M-Audio products (FW1814, Octane Preamp, Oxygen 61 midi controller) for some time now and got no problem. I personnaly think that M-Audio are not considered "cheap" but affordable stuff. In this case it's always possible to have trouble with materiel but not specially M-Audio. And I always have great support for question by the support crew.

How long have you had these M-Audio products? Since if it's less than a year then you don't know if they will last more than year. M-Audio only covers for 1 year so I thought that means that they don't trust there products so they only give one year.

We had a Delta 1010 interface for almost 6 years before it stopped working. We took it to the authorized servicing place, and got a new one, no questions asked.

Was a bit surprised to be honest...

First off, I don't see where Kingsix said anything about the length of time he's had the M-Audio gear, am I missing something here? The Roland products I've owned over the years all had the same warranty: 1 year on parts, and a mere 90 days on the labor. Does that mean that they only last 90 days? Read the fine print; I believe that their Edirol gear carries a similar warranty. Besides, most gear (75+%) carries a 1-year warranty or even less.
Who is telling you the crap about M-Audio vs. Edirol anyway? The dealer trying to sell you Edirol? Yeah, he's your buddy...

In audio as in most things you get what you pay for.

If you pay $6000 for a tape deck (Nagra) you should expect that it will be around for a while. If you pay $120.00 for a dual microphone preamp you cannot expect it to be built for a lifetime of service. There are exceptions but they are few and far between. Pro audio stuff is built for continuous service (or should be) since people are making their living off the equipment. Prosumer or consumer equipment is built for the hobbyist and is really not designed for the sometimes rough and tumble world of pro audio.

Buy what you can afford but be aware that just because you paid what you consider to be a lot does not mean that it will last forever.

Companies like Benchmark, Lavry, Weiss and Bryston are built to last and Bryston even has a 20 year warranty to back up their feeling that it is built for the long haul. Sometimes having fewer pieces of equipment that are built well is better than having a rack load of equipment that is going to self distruct in a couple of years. MTCW

Best of luck....!

moonbaby wrote: First off, I don't see where Kingsix said anything about the length of time he's had the M-Audio gear, am I missing something here? The Roland products I've owned over the years all had the same warranty: 1 year on parts, and a mere 90 days on the labor. Does that mean that they only last 90 days? Read the fine print; I believe that their Edirol gear carries a similar warranty. Besides, most gear (75+%) carries a 1-year warranty or even less.
Who is telling you the crap about M-Audio vs. Edirol anyway? The dealer trying to sell you Edirol? Yeah, he's your buddy...

Sorry for my lack of detail.... I have my 1814 and octane for about 2 years and little less for the midi controller....

KingSix wrote: [quote=moonbaby]First off, I don't see where Kingsix said anything about the length of time he's had the M-Audio gear, am I missing something here? The Roland products I've owned over the years all had the same warranty: 1 year on parts, and a mere 90 days on the labor. Does that mean that they only last 90 days? Read the fine print; I believe that their Edirol gear carries a similar warranty. Besides, most gear (75+%) carries a 1-year warranty or even less.
Who is telling you the crap about M-Audio vs. Edirol anyway? The dealer trying to sell you Edirol? Yeah, he's your buddy...

Sorry for my lack of detail.... I have my 1814 and octane for about 2 years and little less for the midi controller....
No need to apologize. This was my point-that you DIDN'T state that the gear was less than a year old, as icswoosh claimed.
And, Tom is very right about "prosumer" gear (like M-Audio). Much of it is designed with no regard to longevity or serviceability. I still have several pieces from the 70s (!) that are still running strong (Marantz, Technics, Ashly,and dbx, among others). You gets what you pays for.

lcswoosh05 wrote: Is this true that M-Audio products don't have long?

Have long until what? Until they're married? Until their next bus?

Or do you mean that they "don't have long" as in some kind of physiological slur? (That's what Enzyte is for.)

lcswoosh05 wrote:
Someone said that they got 10 keyboards and only 1 worked perfectly fine

In general, I have found that "Someone" is retarded. As is his close friend "Somebody." The only person more retarded is "They."

Case in point, why would somebody by 10 keyboards unless they were starting some kind of music teaching facility? If they bought one after another after another and kept returning them due to their *defective* nature, then it truly proves my point about the retardation issue.

lcswoosh05 wrote:
and others were defected.

Holy Crap! Do you mean that they snuck out from their own country under the tyranny of a communist-like regime and have sought refuge here in the US? That's COOL. It's like Blackmarket only better!!!

lcswoosh05 wrote:
I need to know this since if My BX5a monitors arent that good

They're not. They're okay, but I'd shudder to use the term "good" with them...

lcswoosh05 wrote:
then probley

Having a hard time understanding this one...
*Probley.*
Do you mean an adverb as in "like a probe" or "probe-like"
or *Probably* as in "likely to occur"

lcswoosh05 wrote:
I should get the Edirol MA-15D

Why? That's like trading in a Pinto on a Gremlin.

lcswoosh05 wrote:
since they told me that Edirol and Roland are much better brand and they had no problems.

Ahhh...there's *somebody's* and *someone's* more retarded cousin "They" again.

Don't listen to They, Somebody, or Someone.

lcswoosh05 wrote:
M-Audio only covers for 1 year so I thought that means that they don't trust there products so they only give one year.

Hmmm....check out the warranty on almost every single product in the world. 1 Year Parts, 1 Year labor. Those that deviate from this usually offer 1 year parts, 90 days labor.

If you want a product with a better warranty, check out some of Dave Hill's Products. They have a great warranty. They're smidgen pricier than their M-Audio bretheren, but just a little better.

:P

I don't waste time with conspiracy theories. M-Audio is what it is; and indeed, you do get what you pay for, no different than any other product out there competing for my dollars. So far, I'm a fan of their stuff; it works reliably and does exactly what they say it does.

I have had an FW410 for three or four YEARS now, and it works perfectly for all my PC work as a multichannel ouput and occasional cheap extra mic pre or line in.

Even more amazingly, their online support was fantastic when I tried to get it working for my iMAC for a live sound/surround audio gig. (SOOOO Many choices, for so many versions of the MAC OS. Bravo!)

I couldn't believe all the drivers they had on their website - more than I've ever seen for any website offering tech support; they obviously want this product to work with whatever computer you bought, and it's much more support than other companies who have sometimes all but given up with new support. After finally getting the right driver to match the OS in my iMAC, the driver not only loaded itself perfectly, but initiated a flawless FIRMWARE update, too. (Before I realized what it was doing, or could even stop it, it was halfway done - scared the crap outta me, but worked flawlessly when it was done. WOW!!! When was the last time you've seen THAT kind of gizmo/update work so well, eh?)

Finding the right software and firmware update at 2 a.m. before an important show, for a four year old product (that I was almost ready to replace) makes one VERY happy and loyal, if you ask me. How much longer do I expect it to work? Doesn't really matter to me; for what I paid for it so long ago now, it's already paid for itself many times over.

I believe that Avid owns them now, or....? Sharing ownership with ProTools isn't so bad, I would guess.

Jeremy, you should do stand-up comedy for geeks. LMAO!!!!!!! 8-)

:twisted:

Roland DS-30A

Well I did notice that the Roland DS-30A cost more than the BX5a but is the Roland DS-30A better monitor overall? I can trade with mine and get the Roland DS-30A monitors if I wanted to.

No.

you should sell it all and just stop.

If you don't know how to judge the quality of monitors other than by price, you need to quit.

Cucco wrote: [quote=lcswoosh05]Is this true that M-Audio products don't have long?

Have long until what? Until they're married? Until their next bus?

Or do you mean that they "don't have long" as in some kind of physiological slur? (That's what Enzyte is for.)

I misstype alot sorry but I meant to ask was "Is this true that M-Audio products don't last long?"

Well are the DS-30A monitors good? Since I heard Roland is a good product and that they are durable and last long? I' am really thinking to trade with my BX5a with these.

Here's a link to the DS-30A monitors.

http://www.roland.com/products/en/DS-30A/index.html

I'm quite familiar with them.

They are no better than your M-Audios. They sound different, that's for sure. But are they better? No.

Maybe they'd sound more to your liking or maybe they won't. The only way to tell is to listen to them.

However, since you seem hell-bent on getting rid of your M-Audios and are making up excuses as to why they and the company as a whole suck, I doubt any words I might type here will change that.

So...go buy the Rolands, put your M-Audios on Ebay and call it a day.

I am curious to know how one speaker is more durable than another. Just what the hell are you doing to speakers to call into question their durability? Speaker juggling? Speaker tennis?

Cucco wrote: ...check out some of Dave Hill's Products.

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You WILL like these speakers!
They ARE durable speakers! :roll:
These AREN'T the droids you're looking for!

:lol:

Their USB keyboords are know for failing USB.

M-Audio/Guitar Center replaced two Oxygen8s for me then I switched to the O2 no problems so far.

8)

gdoubleyou wrote: Their USB keyboords are know for failing USB.

By whom?

If you happened to have a small issue with a manufacturer, it's difficult to proclaim that manufacturer as having a known problem! That's a little on the absurd side.

Besides, what exactly does it mean "failing USB?"

It's one thing to say "I've had a problem with brand X model Y." But to say "Because I've had a problem with brand X model Y, you will too because the whole industry knows there's a problem."

When whole product lines en masse are defective, companies go out of business and/or get sued.

Let's not be ridiculous here.

Units still power up but cannot communicate or be detected by the computer.

After the third one failed, I moved to the O2 model, no problems so far, but now I power down the keyboard and disconnect when not in use.

They replaced them no questions asked, nobody appeared to be surprised that they had failed, so obviously I wasn't the only one.

Plus the number of reports I've seen about their USB keyboard failures.

8)

I had a keystation 49 many moons ago. It would ask me to install the drivers every time I used it. I downloaded an updated driver from the site and never had any problem since.

At any rate, I think the fact that M-Audio was willing to replace your hardware is a good thing. What more could you ask for other than a product that works from the get go? At least they are willing to do what they must to keep you a customer.

Some trolls make us laugh, others make us cry.
This Troll does neither.

lcswoosh05 has hit a hell of a lot of sites recently with the same ongoing BS.

Just so you guys know...

I am posting same questions on other sites to see what others say. I am trying to get everyone ideas about my questions. BTW what does troll mean since I talked to me friend and he doesn't know what it means. He said not to worry about it since it's not a bad thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Actually, it is not a desirable trait.

Remember when sides were being picked for the game in your neighborhood and there was always that poor pitiful loser that nobody wanted on their team?

Bingo...

As for the monitors I recently traded my BX5a with the Roland DS-30A and I really like how the DS-30A sounds. Plus they have digital inputs and also HF Trim and LF Trim in the back for room adjustments.

The Oxygen 8 Midi Keyboard by M-audio works perfectly, and has done so for the last 4 years. Windows XP, by default always asks to search for new drivers when the USB cord is plugged in for . Click cancel.

It is a solid keyboard, any driver issues you have may stem from the outside software . I use it with Magix Midi Studio to great effect for the Sub Woofer bass.

A problem I did encounter was with an Alesis IO26 Interface from GC. Power completely died. Chose Yamaha instead.
Over at Skips Music I was informed that they WILL NOT carry any Alesis products.

Those LF/HF trims are dangerous. Again, go and trade in your monitors. Nothing anyone can say here will sway you. You've already sold yourself on the idea. No amount of justification will make it the right or wrong decision. Happy shopping. I wish I had your disposable income. I would save it for something really nice.

lcswoosh05 wrote: As for the monitors I recently traded my BX5a with the Roland DS-30A and I really like how the DS-30A sounds. Plus they have digital inputs and also HF Trim and LF Trim in the back for room adjustments.

So if you already traded them in, why are you here asking whether or not you should?

Troll...

Generalizations about an entire company's products simply because you've had personal experience with one model is sorta useless ...dont you think> Unless its B--------ger. I dont mind that so much as they are pirates of the highest order.

Any company that quietly and efficiently replaces gear without question is to be LAUDED and COMMENDED ON HIGH for this.

I COMPLETELY sick-to-death of this continued badgering by icswooshes about these frickin half-assed to begin with monitors.

ANY AND ALL posts referring to links to these SPECS and asking these questions on ANY of these forums past this time and date will be deleted.