I'm asking the aged brains here - I bought an old AKG 451 E off ebay - clearly liquidated stock from a failed audio company - but mainly because 1. It was black and all mine are silver, and 2. it had the metal slide on basket windshield. From the pictures it had a CK1 cardioid capsule.
Anyway, unplugging a working 451 E and swapping it for the new one revealed a few things - first, it didn't work - well it could just be heard if I scratched the top but more worryingly, the capsule wouldn't unscrew. I know the newer 451 EB has a fixed capsule, but this is an 'E'. I cannot unscrew it with pressure my courage limits.
I'm thinking the capsule was screwed in far too hard and the pins at the bottom also seem a little more protruded than usual, again making me think it's been wrenched.
Has anyone ever come across older 451 E's with fixed capsules? The seller's taking it back anyway, but I've never come across older fixed capsule before?
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The newer one is the 451B, with fixed capsule. IIRC, 451EB is 45
The newer one is the 451B, with fixed capsule. IIRC, 451EB is 451E in black.
I have a 451EB which had a stuck CK8 when I bought it. Put it in the hot sun, applied some WD40 to the threads and got it loose eventually. Required some swearing. The CK8 survived.
I got a refund but feel for the fella selling it.
I got a refund but feel for the fella selling it.
cyrano, post: 465979, member: 51139 wrote: The newer one is the
I owned a silver EB, as shown below (not mine). The EB version has a three position low cut switch.
Right - so EB, is not now an E, in Black, but if it has the low
Right - so EB, is not now an E, in Black, but if it has the low cut switch, then the capsule is fixed? That one in the picture doesn't;t have any side vents on the top assembly, so is that one not a cardioid? The CK1 capsule had side vents.
The pic shows an omni capsule (interchangeable), as mine was. T
The pic shows an omni capsule (interchangeable), as mine was.
This owner's manual has specs of the various original versions and accessories.
https://www.proaudioeurope.com/info/classic-brochures/akg-c451-e-condenser-microphone-brochure
I had somehow expected someone to show a silver EB. Now I think
I had somehow expected someone to show a silver EB. Now I think of it, it's Sennheiser that has numbering like that. AKG is usually more confusing.
Sorry I'm even more confused now! I though we were saying the EB
Sorry I'm even more confused now! I though we were saying the EB with switch was the fixed version - the current 451B is the fixed I think, so E and EB have removable capsules - this means the one I had being an E SHOULD have come undone, but my courage left me! The picture is the fixed one on the Thomann site with two switches - maybe that iOS the key? 2 switches = fixed?
My black C451EB has one switch (two step HPF) and removable caps
My black C451EB has one switch (two step HPF) and removable capsules...
Paul, they released a "modern" version a decade ago that was bad
Paul, they released a "modern" version a decade ago that was badged "C451B" (with fixed capsule). It was not the same mic, in construction or sound, imo.
I added "original" to my earlier post text to make that distinct
I added "original" to my earlier post text to make that distinction more clear...
Thanks Ron - what I'm trying to work out is how you can tell fro
Thanks Ron - what I'm trying to work out is how you can tell from the model number which is which. I'd hate to think I bought a 451E that was fixed, and complained because it didn't unscrew. If 451E could be both, then there's no way of telling from a photo, is there?
To further confuse you I stated in error the new version model n
To further confuse you I stated in error the new version model number, since corrected in my post text.
Versions I am aware of:
C451 E available in silver and black and interchangeable capsules
C451 EB available in silver and black and interchangeable capsules, with 3 position low cut switch
C451 B modern version with fixed cardioid capsule only
Aha! Thanks for this - the only fixed one does have a unique num
Aha! Thanks for this - the only fixed one does have a unique number - B for fixed. Phew. Cheers!