Triggering with REASON?

I believe that there is no way for you to do that with Reason since there is no input to the interface except for MIDI.



If you wanna do it with Reason you have to write the MIDI notes yourself in a MIDI track where you see the hits in your Kick track or snare or whatever you want to replace.



A great plugin that you can use would be SoundReplacer. I used several times and it fixes the drums in a great way. I recorded a Reason combination of drums and I got a great solid sound that I replaced using SoundReplacer. With that plugin you can actually chose 3 different velocities so to make it sound very natural.



Cheers, Bas.

you could send the drums out individual direct outputs

and then input them to something like an Alesis D4

and have it write the midi notes

during a play-out ... midi record-in pass

SoundReplacer is pretty cool,

and saves much time compared to placing the samples individualy



both methods can work

only you can decide what works for you

try the demo of soundreplacer



The D4 requires a bit of comitment to midi and all that goes with it

I'm a midi user so I feel comfortable with it and it's pitfalls

you have a midi port ?

supercharry wrote: Hi Kev, yes I do have a midi port,.... Im very interested in starting to use drum triggers.

... Apart from these, what else do I need to trigger some drums?

cool

then I would suggest borrowing a D4 ... or better



Midi drums is a tuff gig for many reasons.

All synth gear is expensive and is outdated on a daily basis.



The 002 midi port is OK to start with but do expect to get something better and larger if the mid bug bites you.



It is possible to get started with drum triggering with just the oxygen 8 controller.

Use your fingers to play a simple kick/snare ... and perhaps a HiHat hat pattern and record the midi notes and the Reason Drums samples at the same time.



You may experience the midi latency AND the audio latency that WILL happen.



we can talk about how to manage it.



If you get a D4 we can talk about some cheap DIY drum triggers so you can start experimenting with a few of my techniques ... techniques aimed at surviving with gear that is not perfect. NON of this gear is perfect but we can work around the problems.



search through some of the old drum and midi stuff here at RO

supercharry wrote: .... However my interest is to trigger an acoustic drum set to be able to mix with both midi and audio info, that should give more possibilities for a specific wanted sound.

YES

I know that

BUT

you can start right now and actually do a dummy run with just two fingers

AND

attempt to do an over-dub into one of your existing songs.



Feel, See and Hear some of the troubles and latencies that will only get worse when the Trigger to Midi unit does arrive.





I tend to use the D4 sounds for monitoring even though I don't use them in the final song.

It is like hardware monitoring while doing a vocal O/D and not monitoring through the 001 or 002.

Metal Drums

Trigger to Midi

:shock:

could be on of the hardest thing to do with midi drums ... especially snare

cymbals ... forget about it

and

kick will tend to get that machine gun thing

but toms and as back-up or supporting samples, it could help



As for the audio to trigger

NO all you need is outputs from the DAW interface.

Might be tricky to level match BUT it is all possible.

Will probably need to attenuate the DAW output to a level nearer triggers.



unbalanced cable and a trim pot could be all you need

just that metal drums is a tuff gig



pop music with a simple repeated 1/4 note loop sort of thing is very easy

and cheap triggers and less equipment can work very well



Do exactly what I have said above

start experimenting with what you have ... with fingers

then get a D4 on loan and make some cheap adapter cables to try the audio to trigger/midi set-up



All I'm saying is

DON"T dive into midi drums and expect to produce speed metal panteera slip whatever on your first attempt



I've been midi drumming since Symond's shit and I'm now in V-drum trigger world and have a D4

although it is great ... it is far from perfect and does require discipline from the drummer