1. If he's a touring artist, he should have some idea how to work w/ a 58. If so, I'd skip the pop filter. You may want to take advantage of the proximity effect.
2. Your angling is a good idea - it helps w/ 'plosives and such.
Any angle will do, just keep in mind the tone you're going for, and that the direction of the mic will affect that.
Head tones? Nose tones? Throat tones? Chest tones? (more so w/ a condenser)
This will be an important part of your experimentation
3. Move he and the mic around as well. Typically some space around a vocalist is a good idea - unless your space sounds terrible.

Repeat #2 and #3 until you find the right combination of presence, intimacy, and space for this (these) particular vocal track(s).

Hope that helps!

That does help!

Mic mounted, or should I let him hold it if he is more comfortable. Try both ways and see what comes out better. Doesn't really matter right. I think the mounted takes will mix and seat easier.

Whichever the singer is used to as long as he's not flailing around too much. One thing to watch for is...rings on the fingers. These can thump a 58 (or any handheld) and while that may not be noticed so much in a live show, it can wreck a vocal take in the studio.

Fun day. I'll post the clips later.

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Music/New%20Song%20-%20June%203.mp3?w=4f4631da

the link doesnt work =(

HaHallur, post: 351215 wrote: the link doesnt work =(

Try this one.

[[url=http://[/URL]="http://soundclick.c…"]SoundClick artist: Discordant Conformity - page with MP3 music downloads[/]="http://soundclick.c…"]SoundClick artist: Discordant Conformity - page with MP3 music downloads[/]

Help me out GF....I'm sorry...I'm old...LOL...I really like Iron Man by Black Sabbath...and the Beatles and Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath is about as Metal as I can manage....and you kids really like this type of audio don't you?....I want to understand....I really do....it fascinates me how this works....and don't get me wrong, you should play and record what you like absolutely, but for me....I have a hard time listening to that....isn't it weird how generations get that way?!! LOL....I mean my Dad hated my music too....and I didn't think it would happen to me ....so...just keep on keeping on and doing what your doing!
But any insight on this topic you might have to share with this poor old man and his tender ears....I would find very informative and might help with my appreciation! It sort of shocked me to be honest....and scared the bejesus out of me...I wasn't prepared for the blast and I had to grab my monitor control LOL....but then I brought it back down to a reasonable level.....
I will give it a 10, but I don't know why? It wasn't at all what I was expecting...
You can dance to that, can't you?

djmukilteo, post: 351225 wrote: Help me out GF....I'm sorry...I'm old...LOL...I really like Iron Man by Black Sabbath...and the Beatles and Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath is about as Metal as I can manage....and you kids really like this type of audio don't you?....I want to understand....I really do....it fascinates me how this works....and don't get me wrong, you should play and record what you like absolutely, but for me....I have a hard time listening to that....isn't it weird how generations get that way?!! LOL....I mean my Dad hated my music too....and I didn't think it would happen to me ....so...just keep on keeping on and doing what your doing!
But any insight on this topic you might have to share with this poor old man and his tender ears....I would find very informative and might help with my appreciation! It sort of shocked me to be honest....and scared the bejesus out of me...I wasn't prepared for the blast and I had to grab my monitor control LOL....but then I brought it back down to a reasonable level.....
I will give it a 10, but I don't know why? It wasn't at all what I was expecting...
You can dance to that, can't you?

Hahaha, I half expected a response like that. Hell what do I know of this style of music, I'm just the engineer here trying to give a buddy of mine a leg up on his project. I listen to similar music myself though. The guitar riffs are where it's at for me. The vocals are something that are there for the feeling and I tend to just listen to the grooves and flows of the guitar tracks. Not of this style particularly, but similar enough. Lately I have been getting into more rhythmically complex songwriting influenced by modern bands that write in polyrhythm. I am very impressed by these bands and I can't help but be drawn into it myself. Albeit that has nothing to do with the straightforward genre of music in the clip that I just posted, but there is hope for modern music afterall.

I daresay I am a bit hesitant to ask how the vocals sounded?

That's putting me on the spot....I have a difficult time with the growling and screams...I don't think it was distorted or anything...did you use the 58 or the 57?
I mean it was fine I guess...I'm not being much help am I!! sorry!
I'm sure someone will post a more thorough report for you....

That was with my 58. I compared it to other studio recordings that I have of him and it sounded a bit thin in the low end. I suppose they must have used higher end condenser mics more sensitive to lower frequencies. Could be a few things.