Voxengo is worth a look. Awhile ago i got this plugin because i liked the way it warmed up some of my mixes.

Which Voxengo plugin Blaumph ?

pcrecord, post: 404365 wrote: Which Voxengo plugin Blaumph ?

Personally, I use Voxengo's Elephant. I did a lot of comparison's and felt Elephant was the way to go. It's so efficient as a maximizer/limiter and retains a little more clarity with it's "analog" features than the other plugs I compared it to. A fantastic final mix tool IMO, at a great price.

I actually used Voxformer not only on vocals but sparingly on bass and even drums to add some punch.

Forgive me... but you're asking....

Why not just insert some analog hardware... like a tape deck, compressor, limiter, etc???

There's a UAD card with the Ampex tape emulation plugin.

MadMax, post: 404375 wrote: Forgive me... but you're asking....

Why not just insert some analog hardware... like a tape deck, compressor, limiter, etc???

Most tracks are recorded with a tube preamp and tube compressor combo (DBX silver 576) it's a fairly recent. What I'm looking for is a PLUGIN which will help me get a older sound. Kind a vintage.

I get great results using PSP Vintage Warmer for that. Behaves like tape would so as you limit and compress your track instead of getting that harsh digital clipping you get some really interesting sounds. Some of which are terrible. Some are amazing. Definitely worth a go. Has built in eq, limiting parameters, compression parameters. Not that they are much use unless you don't know what your start point is but the pre-sets are very handy for throwing a quick mix about too.

The PSP Vintage Warmer has worked for me. I've also been using Oxford Inflator.

But I don't know about that "harsh digital clipping" from limiter plugins. Never heard such a thing.

I tried the PSP Vintage Warmer was not very impressed, most of its goods happens when you push it so that some compression is at work. But, I want to do a pre-mastering effect, so compressing the signal is not my goal. I'll try Oxford Inflator to see if I can tweak it to warm things up without compressing the signal too much.

Tx guys !
Any other suggestions ?

The Inflator won't compress much but it can sound "tubby" if pushed. I use Effect settings up to about 20, usually around 6. It mostly fattens the lows and adds some "tube-like" harmonics. Sometimes I cut some lows with eq first to give the Inflator space to work.

Thanks for the tip, Bouldersound I trial it soon..

You could contact Chris (audiokid) and see what he would charge you to run it through his hybrid/Neos rig. He's also got some pretty awesome analog outboard gear as well.

Trust me, you won't be disappointed.

For console and tape emulations you should try the Slate Digital VCC and VTM.
I've never worked with real consoles and tape, but according to many reviews this is the closest you can get to the real thing right now.
They certainly do work for me.

I've also use Decapitator with some success.

Tone Boosters Reelbus is great and very affordable, the guy who coded the Tone Boosters line gives great support too, definitely worth checking out.

Thanks guys, I'll make some tests!

I've heard that UAD does a whole suite of plug-ins that they claim are "the finest analog emulations on the planet". Only catch is that they need an PCIe card, and they're super expensive (but you get what you pay for).

i think the only thing you need to do to make it sound more analog is to mix it analog. duh pretty simple. that "not analog" thing you are hearing is itb summing. you can put whatever flavor of the soon to be obsolete / unusable over priced software rip off "plug in" you want but it's still gonna be itb ... narrow, flat and non dimensional. that big round sound comes from mixing with a summing solution or better yet a console (even a cheapo Mackie). i learned a long time ago when working with blackface ADATs there's nothing wrong with digital recording ... it's digital mixing that's the culprit.

exactly.

and I will add a bit more to Kurt's already spot on response... , if your are into dance, electronic, dubstep etc, then ITB is great. I mean, its all electronically generated sounds so its already ITB, follow? Why go out really, however I know I can still make digital mixes sound bigger OTB. Its when we start mixing and summing "real" music with real world transients full of acoustic information and human dynamics ( the magic is in the transients) ITB lacks and kills as its calculating and summing it all down into two track music all perfectly sounding . I suppose people get it down and done, but I am never satisfied.

I'm really starting to understand the magic and value each analog channel makes in a mix. Variation and individuality makes a mix musical. Not all perfectly boring channels.

can plug-ins do that, maybe on their own but when you start adding all those plug-in together, its becomes a mess of just more digital emulation. I have a bunch of analog plug-ins but I never use them. But I'm fortunate that i don't have too either.

imho.

And for those who can't afford or don't have the space for analog mixing there are plenty of good plugins that can bring a digital in-the-box mix to the next level.
They work for me, but like I said I've never mixed analog. So I don't really care if it doesn't sound exactly like the real thing, as long as it sounds good (to me).

ouzo77, post: 405872 wrote: And for those who can't afford or don't have the space for analog mixing there are plenty of good plugins that can bring a digital in-the-box mix to the next level.
They work for me, but like I said I've never mixed analog. So I don't really care if it doesn't sound exactly like the real thing, as long as it sounds good (to me).

Yup, ITB is fantastic for the bedio and it works for me and I'm so grateful for plugs like Voxengo Elephant (my current choice) or Ozone, which is actually pretty cool.

But man, if someone has had the opportunity to mix OTB in a multi-million $$ studio they know the difference. I've been fortunate enough to have that experience, and I know Kurt has too. Personally, I'll never get over the beautiful sound[?] of Focusrite's RED series stuff. So sweet.

Speak of the devil, Slate Digital just released their Virtual Bus Compressors plugin. They claim to emulate every non-linearity and all the little things that make analog sound so lively.
Gonna download the demo.

so far I've been happy with Harrison's MixBus software in terms of warmth. It's not a plug, but a full platform... and for a grand total of $40, which is a lot less than many plugs.

Personally though, to my ears, there's nothing that truly emulates analog... but analog.

If you are really looking to get "that sound" from a digital source, my recommendation would be to contact Chris (audiokid) and talk to him about running stems or a 2 mix through his rig.

fwiw
-d.

I like the Kramer tape simulation on the master bus or waves nls for a good non-linear summing

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