Hi, i'm looking for a few expert recording engineer sugguestions on how to possibly improve a guitar sound a bit. Firstly, i'll give a little background on my setup. I'm running three mics: One cardioid to isolate the sound, one condenser for a little bit of crispness and a tube in the room. I am happy with the initial sound i'm getting running two of these mics (one compressed) from a processor into two separate analog mixer channels and one mic directly(condenser) to a mixer channel. I then send all three of these mics out together bused (one line) as a stereo pair (L&R), compress again, then to an external converter and go optical into a single track into my multi-track software. My question is would I be better off running more than one stereo pair to my converters (separate for each mic) into my software, recording more than one track simultaniously? I'm wondering if i'll achieve a slight bit better edge on my sound somehow that way.. or perhaps I should also compress the other two mics and stick to running them all together as one line into a single track. Thx for any helpful sugguestions, opinions or info from any knowlegable engineers. ~Jp, "The Box", Minnesota, US
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Dark Fader wrote: [quote=Jp22] I think what your "lacking" OK I
Dark Fader wrote: [quote=Jp22] I think what your "lacking"
OK I take back my apology, you have learnt NOTHING.
IT'S YOU'RE, NOT YOUR, in that instance. FFS!
Its corrected now, happy? Nobody is perfect. But honestly, you shouldn't spend your life going around trying to correct other people, since you may have more faults than -->you're<-- aware
of yourself, friend. Think about it.
Jp22 wrote: Rhetoric Sascha, rhetoric. I'm aware of everything y
Jp22 wrote: Rhetoric Sascha, rhetoric. I'm aware of everything you posted. Furthermore, I think what you're "lacking" are "fundamentals" yourself of approaching some individuals in the proper tone, in which case you are NOT. I'm done with you.
YOU are talking about "proper tone"?
And btw, what has been rhethoric in my reply?
I've been asking for something concrete, to understand your techniques.
But all you do is to ignore everything and continue the trolling game. Just that this time you won't be successful as I won't bother replying to anything you say anymore.
Good bye, idiot.
Jp22 wrote: hmmmm.... I believe there may be secret ways around
Jp22 wrote: hmmmm.... I believe there may be secret ways around wearing tinfoil hats. What do you think? :wink:
Dunno....but i take my hat off to you sir! Not many people would have returned here after the abuse you've received. Still, you seem pretty impervious to other people's opinions.
astroid wrote: the iconoclast Jp22 messiah has rolled back the
astroid wrote:
the iconoclast Jp22 messiah has rolled back the rock from the tomb and emerged victorious with his magic EQ unit. hopefully he'll bless us with more gospel before God takes him back!
I ain't no messiah, but "God" might take me back sooner than i'd like. That one isn't up to me :!: ....is it?
Dark Fader wrote: Dunno....but i take my hat off to you sir! No
Dark Fader wrote:
Dunno....but i take my hat off to you sir! Not many people would have returned here after the abuse you've received. Still, you seem pretty impervious to other people's opinions.
Abuse?? You call that abuse? I read it all myself and its pretty weak. As I stated in the second paragraph of that long post I just typed... most people are abused themselves so they need an outlet, its understandable. They got nothin' better to do most likely.
arke wrote: Before somebody else says it in a more insulting man
arke wrote: Before somebody else says it in a more insulting manner first:
Maybe God wants you to educate him about getting back dynamics with EQ?
:D :D :D :D :D
God says: "He did it when he was standing there using a British made 24-track 8 bus Soundtracs Topaz with a 5-band EQ on it (BEFORE he recorded, NOT after)."
Jp22 wrote: When I said something to the effect of using EQ to c
Jp22 wrote: When I said something to the effect of using EQ to control my dynamics instead of limiting/compression (can't remember exactly how I phrased it) I meant *as i'm standing there* EQ'ing BEFORE RECORDING, NOT AFTER. Understand?
Hello Jp22!!
Could you please give me a step-by-step guide as to how I can use an equaliser to restore dynamics before the signal is recorded? I'm a noob and I could really use a tutorial.
Thanks man, I owe ya one!!
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Q: How many guitarists does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: 501. 1 to actually do it, 500 to say "I could have done that!"
Q: How many JP22's does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: Why change the lightbulb if your studio is dark when you can turn the heating up and get the same effect?
It’s a little bit funny Brit-EQing inside I’m not one of those w
It’s a little bit funny Brit-EQing inside
I’m not one of those who can dynamically ride
I don’t have much money but boy if I did
I’d buy a Tube Amp when we both could gig
If I was an engineer, but then again, no
Or a man who compresses in a 'stu-di-oh'
I know it’s not much but it’s the best I can do
My gift is 'MY THREAD' and this one’s for you
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Jp22 wrote: Ok.... three paragraphs. One to clarify, one for t
Jp22 wrote: Ok.... three paragraphs. One to clarify, one for the imbeciles and one for all the musicians and ego'd out "engineers".
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Just to clarify yet once again for the record.... AND I'VE STATED THIS MORE THAN ONCE: When I said something to the effect of using EQ to control my dynamics instead of limiting/compression (can't remember exactly how I phrased it) I meant *as i'm standing there* EQ'ing BEFORE RECORDING, NOT AFTER. Understand? Obviously theres still a HUGE lack of communication between me and other obviously ignorant individuals. Regardless, appologies for any confusion this topic may have caused with a good percentage of all the reefer addicts and vitamin deficient schizos out there. For anyone who would like to hear my music... I have been unable to find musicians or a 'fitting' label for years. If anyone has webspace I can upload some samples please e-mail me here (don't expect the quality of the recording to be top notch, i'm not a showboat and don't care for ear candy... "digilogue" is more my thing - Also don't get your confidence up too high by being cocky with me or you can just piss off, you'll be ignored): chopin1@hotmail.com2.
As for all the insane amount insults.... they have simply been ignored. I've noticed alot of people obviously need to vent these days and its sad when there has to be a target or a catalyst for so much nonsense. It just goes to show how many people out there are truely abused themselves. The psychology is they're so sick and tired of being nagged themselves with so much other BS in their own lives that they need an outlet. This is understandable, so you're all forgiven (except for this "Joe" idiot who quoted some jewish bible passage thinking i'm some "satanist". In response to that I do happen to try very hard to believe in a supreme entity known as God but honestly i've yet to see solid proof other than billions to possibly infinitesmal oddities known as "LIFE" including myself and even more human or natural flukes - does this make *me* a bad person... NO, since I ain't your creator and you surely ain't my f'n judge bitch). Life can be very confusing, so I say let the truth be known. Question all thats false and fake, BUT KNOW THIS... if you go around like this Judas "Joe" person slandering by 'exposing', making a mockery out of, or helping to set another person up for a fall while at the same time benefiting yourself in some way, while quoting out of religion even, then your guilty as a motherf***** yourself. Period.3.
Learn some self-control people.... and drop the ego if your not deserved of it. Most of you ain't. Bottom line: If i'm a musician and your the engineer and I was recording in your studio, i'd tell you to f-off in a heartbeat if you tried direct how I wanted things to sound or be mastered. Just because your a sound engineer doesn't mean *you* decide. YOU don't create the music, the MUSICIAN does, IT ISN'T YOUR MUSIC. You give the musician what HE WANTS to hear for HIS money, NOT what YOU want for *your* money. Got it? Good. Furthermore, if some of you are getting payoffs by other corporate entities to control certain musicians in the industry by producing these 'assembly line crap' recordings some of us are aware of, then realize that its high time to start looking over your shoulder because some musicians out there are coming up on technology in the industry faster than you may think and soon you'll be left in the dust by losing clients from all your deception. They will then start to record for each other, pushing this "industry standard" nonsense back into the stoneage (where it belongs). Don't think its possible? Think it over, technology is growing more ripe by the minute and all your expensive toys will soon become almost obsolete just like gas for battery powered cars.
just before it gets changed some more.
as a partial response. Jp22, did you have a hard time finding musicians because they just don't "get it"? and, I hope that, when all our expensive toys become obsolete, your magic eq is still running off of PHANTOM POWER woooOOOOOooooOOOOoooo.
Leon_Willett wrote: Hello Jp22!! Could you please give me a ste
Leon_Willett wrote:
Hello Jp22!!
Could you please give me a step-by-step guide as to how I can use an equaliser to restore dynamics before the signal is recorded? I'm a noob and I could really use a tutorial.
Thanks man, I owe ya one!!
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Hi Leon, sure....
1. You stand there and do some finger flexes (getting ready).
2. Make sure your 2 other EQ(s) prior to your mixer are also EQ'd the way you wan't them first.
3. You EQ with a mixer that has an EQ on it.
4. EQ your EQ that comes after your mixer before going into your converters.
5. EQ your EQ in your "real-time" software.
Got it? Good luck! This is a tough one!!
Holy heck, JP.... What Sascha posted was observable and quantif
Holy heck, JP....
What Sascha posted was observable and quantifiable fact, not rhetoric. Do you know what rhetoric IS? I would absolutely love to hear your take on what "rhetoric" means, regardless of whether or not it's Roman, Greek, American, or British.
You guys remember those threads that were popular not too long ago, where people would make up online Blog personalities to see if people could get suckered into believing the person was real?
Have we all just been suckered into believing that JP is for real?
:lol:
JP, if you are indeed a real person, I feel at least a little bad for you. But not much, because your persona continues to refuse advice.
You probably didn't even bother trying out my microphone tip. :lol:
Thanks for coming back, though, and for bringing me here!
Greg
Rhetoric Sascha, rhetoric. I'm aware of everything you posted. F
Rhetoric Sascha, rhetoric. I'm aware of everything you posted. Furthermore, I think what you're "lacking" are "fundamentals" yourself of approaching some individuals in the proper tone, in which case you are NOT. I'm done with you.