the yamaha has pre's in it.

Nice. Happiness is a new mic... 8-)

McCheese wrote: the yamaha has pre's in it.

all mixers have pre's in them? I thaught all the one I had did was take 12 channels and turn them into 2 outputs, and ad phantom power. I didn't get the silly one with the built in effects.

It's the little knob at the top of the channel strips which allows you to raise the level of the input source. Look at your channel 1 strip for example, check for a knob which says either, "gain", "trim" or "input". That should be it.

8-)

Joshtruction wrote: [quote=McCheese]the yamaha has pre's in it.

all mixers have pre's in them? I thaught all the one I had did was take 12 channels and turn them into 2 outputs, and ad phantom power. I didn't get the silly one with the built in effects.

Most mixers include mic pre's, unless they are specifically "line mixers". If you have phantom powered XLR inputs however, you definitely have mic pre-amps! ;)

IIRs wrote: [quote=Joshtruction][quote=McCheese]the yamaha has pre's in it.

all mixers have pre's in them? I thaught all the one I had did was take 12 channels and turn them into 2 outputs, and ad phantom power. I didn't get the silly one with the built in effects.

Most mixers include mic pre's, unless they are specifically "line mixers". If you have phantom powered XLR inputs however, you definitely have mic pre-amps! ;)

questions is, are they going to sound good or like poo.

I was thinking of getting something along the lines of an art tps II

That ART unit will sound better than the pres in most value line boards. 8-)

And if you know electronics well enough, you can always mod those pres. :twisted:

BrianAltenhofel wrote: And if you know electronics well enough, you can always mod those pres. :twisted:

If he doesn't know his mixer has mic pre's built in I somehow doubt he's the least bit electronically inclined. But you never know.

And calgary, I'd have to differ with you on the ART thing. Yeah it'll beat out behringers pre's but any other board, its probably a wash and waste of money.

Out of the box an ART TPS II is definitely better sounding than the pres in value line boards. The difference is fairly obvious given a quick listen IMO.

I don"t know what all the fuss is over Behringer equipment is about. I just this pass week bought an Behringer T-1953 vintage series tube ultragain pre-amp and last night I bought a Rode NT-1-A and the NT-5s and just finished recording an acoustic track and a vocal track tonight and my wifes jaw dropped when she heard the results. Sure, I guess I could spend thousands on better pre-amps but this is a hobby. If I were charging people to come in and record and I was making thousands of dollars maybe then but for now, my Behringer does just fine thank you.

Brock.

Well the mic and the Nady pop filter came in today. I still have not got to use them yet though :( I still need a mic stand, good quality XLR cable, and to install my delta 44 and the drivers. Soon I should have a few hip hop artist comming in to do vocals as a project to help me learn, and shortly after I should have some of my acoustic tracks recorded. I will keep you guys posted.