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What mic would you use to mic a didjeridoo? Where would you place the mic? The only mic I have, a Shure 58 just doesn't seem to cut it. Any insight on this would be helpful. Thanks.

Bluemoon

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Scott Gould Fri, 01/18/2002 - 21:59

Yeah - what Jeff said. I've used an AKG414 and an AT4050 about 6 feet away, aimed at the end but not "up the tube" if you know what I mean. I record in a large (38' X 45') room at the 'live' end (hardwood floors). Just about any decent large diaphragm condenser will work, and if you don't have a really good sounding room, you could try moving closer (but not too close) with the mic.

Scott

anonymous Sat, 01/19/2002 - 13:52

I had him play on a wooden floor and used a 421 pointing at the hole (about 18-24 inches back) and a U87 at the top (again about 18-24 inches away) to pick up the cirlular breathing. It was for a didjeridoo instruction book/CD and the player loved the results (he's supposedly one of Australias best but after 4 hours of listening to him, he could been farting into the mic and I wouldn't have noticed the difference ). I guess I'll stick to guitars/bass & drums. :o

anonymous Mon, 02/18/2002 - 23:03

I did a live recording of my friend's band, Supna, in Vancouver, BC last summer. I am humble to report that per the Didjeridooist's (?, best nomenclature I could come up with, hee-hee) prefs we used his 58 lying on an old beat-to-hell pillow on the floor, mere inches from the sound hole. The only processing done to the signal was 58-Wah pedal-delay pedal-preamp. As you can tell this was not traditional music in any way, shape, or form letter. I am happy with the sound but will definitely put to good use what I have read here. Cheers, Doc.

anonymous Sat, 04/13/2002 - 06:03

Well Bluemoon.
None of these people obviously know Jack proverbial about recording a didgeridoo. And as for one of "supposedly" Australia's best players sounding as if he was "farting into the mic"...

I have established an AUSTRALIAN EMBASSY on RO at the Fairlight Forum (of which I am Moderator) for these and other reasons up here,

If you are still remotely interested in getting a good didj sound, (and you won't get one from any of these "suggestions") then visit the Australian Embassy.

At least you'll meet people who know what they're talking about, and who don't refer to an Aboriginal musician as sounding like a fart.

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Guest Sun, 04/14/2002 - 00:12

Hi Sted:

Already posted lengthy reply on Aussie thread, but something else occurs to me:

Let's say you were listening to digital modem transmission signals of a piece of digitized music. Now, a computer can make complete sense of that "noise" - and in fact with the right software convert it into a piece of music that the average human ear might find quite "beautiful". But to us it's still just digital noise. We know that with the right equipment, there may be a masterpiece encoded in there, but we are incapable of hearing it. It's still just noise to our unequipped ears. We might describe it as static for instance.

Similarly, if you have never or rarely heard a particular exotic instrument, it is conceivable that you might not be able to distinguish a master player from a rank amateur - the difference would be too subtle for the untrained ear. Much like trying to tell the difference between digitized music and digitized noise when listening to the actual digital information. Most of us could not make that distinction. We simply lack the equipment to make that evaluation.

The point? When someone says that TO THEM after a while it all sounds like "farting in a bowl" it is a self-admitted indictment of their own ears more than a denial that the instrument can be played masterfully in the hands of the right player and the ears of the right listeners. They are simply stating the honest fact that they themselves may not be able to tell the difference.

anonymous Sun, 04/14/2002 - 01:31

It not only goes deeper than that but has a wider bandwidth than a cable modem even.

Do you think it's appropriate we continue this duscussion here though? Personally I would appreciate it if not only yourself, but any body else that wants to continue this discussion about microphones, profesional practice, didgeridoos,
and why I'm sorry but a fart is still not good enough would join me over on The Australian Embassy.

There are already some people there, including "newbees", and this would be an excellent topic for us to talk further on. Discuss. Exchange. For me to go further is to discuss my country and it's heart.It's music, and why, despite me appreciating what you are trying to do, I think you're wrong. What you are describing is what we, as engineers, musicians, truck drivers and bums bring to our work. It is fundamental to why we touch any dial, push any fader, set any polar pattern, and work with the people that we do.

I have no objections to talking further here...but this is not my Forum. Any lack of clarity that we would have to go through, I would prefer to do over on the Forum which I moderate. Not because it gives me more "hits" (although that would be cool). But well, it seems like a little bit of Australia up here for me. Does that sound funny? Unacceptable? :cool:

anonymous Sun, 04/14/2002 - 09:02

Originally posted by littledog:
When someone says that TO THEM after a while it all sounds like "farting in a bowl" it is a self-admitted indictment of their own ears more than a denial that the instrument can be played masterfully in the hands of the right player and the ears of the right listeners. They are simply stating the honest fact that they themselves may not be able to tell the difference.

Littledog-
When I stated that "after 4 hours" it sounded like... It was an admittance of my personal inhability to enjoy the music after 4 hours of listening rather than the ability of my ears to hear the sound. I stand by the fact that the player loved the results of the sound recorded (it was just not to my taste).

And stedel.....get a sense of humour I WAS JOKING.

anonymous Sun, 04/14/2002 - 10:16

Sorry. In the context of where and how it appeared
I don't find it funny. I'd appreciate it, so too would others, if you took a moment to hear me out re what I'm about to say.And please littledog, that wasn't a threat. It was an invitation and a personal request that The Establishment can either take up or ignore.And no, it doesn't mean that I just said **** him, what do I care anyway?
I'll be brief. Well kind of.

This Topic "Who's miced a Didjeridoo?" has resulted in several lengthy discussions. Some publicly displayed up here. It's actually raised several issues that I and several others are interested in pursuing further.

Littledog has suggested ways to do this, so have I.
I would very much like it if you were a part of this discussion.I think it will be interesting, fun, and constructive. As well as challenging. Diferent mic techniques, studio resourcing,
working with "other" cultures (an important aspect of new technologies and the more international base that many people in this industry are now making use of ) will be discussed.So will humour, and, hopefully some pretty funny examples of, will appear.

Since raising some concerns I have had re this Topic, I have been, up here, publicly, and privately, heavily criticised, to the extent that my mental health has been (seriously) questioned,
public "diagnosis" has been given re my "condition", and massive assumptions re the emotional feel or emotion conveyed in my posts have been publicly aired.

"Newbees" reading such stuff would have the impression that to enter into dialogue with me would be like taking on some loose trigger gunslinger, who would just as soon shoot you dead where you stand than "fart" in your general direction.Not only that, but the Stedel behind the gun, is some half-crazed, stressed out schizo who talks to ghosts. Well I do have a ghost.But that's a long (and in places funny) story.

Then there are people who think that I (QUOTE) ROCK! (UNQUOTE)

Yeah, I've got a sense of humour. Yep I can lighten
up.

How about you, The Establishment?
That last post was very brief and dismissive.
You don't wanna Do the Didgeridoo Doo with people who Didgeridoo Too?
Kind regards
:) :cool: