ptr wrote:

Any other Digital mixer sugestions in the sub $10000 region are welcome..

The Yamaha 02R has been used for several Grammy projects-- including the micpres!

Rich

I don't know what problems youv'e had with the Mackie's in the past, but I would recommend you at least check out the ONYX line before you spend your money. It's as solid and reliable as anything you'll find out there, regardless of the cost.

I'm very happy with the 1640 (16 ch., with the firewire option) and I'm considering the smaller 1220 for monitoring in my studio. (I don't need a big console per se, just something basic to monitor while I'm working with the computer and a pre amp or two.) The 1620 is the in-betweener size, with 8 mic pre's; the 1220 has 4.

The pre's in the ONYX are superlative; extremely quiet, tons of gain & uncolored. (Perfect for classical & Jazz remotes, etc., but I wont bore you with comments like "Open" and "Transparant", etc. I stay away from subjective terms that don't mean anything to anyone but the listener. You'll want to decide that for yourself.)

The 1640 is fairly large (larger than the 1642 or 1604 VLZ line; you'll need a bigger case) but it's got all the features of the old line and more. As for reliability, I've been lugging it to/from remotes since late November, and it's built like the proverbial tank. The firewire option works perfectly as well, exactly as featured.

It's NOT a full featured Digital console by any means, however; it's a fully functional ANALOG mixer (16 ch., 4 subs, 2 mains, 6 aux's,) with a digital send for each of the 16 input channels, plus another stereo 2-bus (18 sends total). There's also a stereo return FROM your computer, for playing back via the console. (MP3's for background music, or full resolution playback for working in your studio, etc.)

BUT, that's about it for digital audio. It's a great analog board for small clubs, sound reinforcement, CDr 2-mixes, and it'll let you track your work to a computer as you go. The sends are pre-eq, pre everything but the input trims, so buyer beware if that's not what you're looking for. (with the firewire option, you'll looking at about $1500 USD.)

I'd be happy to answer any other questions you might have via email., etc.

DM1000 is the sibling of the DM2000 and O2R96. I own an O2R96 and have used the DM2000. Both are excellent consoles for classical recording.

With regard to mLan, I have no direct experience with this type of connection. I took a look at Yamaha's mLan site and find it interesting that the channel count for 88.1 or 96kHz sample rates is reduced by half. Now this is reasonable for an ADAT I/F that is limited to 48kHz. But why is the reduction necessary for a 1394 connection? Seems strange...

Peter

JoeH wrote: I'd be happy to answer any other questions you might have via email., etc.

Thanks Joe,

I'll keep an open mind as I'm not out an a Mackiebashing spree. I'll check if any of the local junk stores have one on the shelf for me to try out, checked with the with the local distributors site and the 1640 with the FW option is listed for $2250.

masonMedia wrote: DM1000 is the sibling of the DM2000 and O2R96. I own an O2R96 and have used the DM2000. Both are excellent consoles for classical recording.

The reason I asked is that it seems that the DM-series especially have become the standard mixer with several of the local hot-shot engineers (myself not beeing one yet :cry: ). I'll take a look at the O2R aswell..

With regard to mLan, I have no direct experience with this type of connection. I took a look at Yamaha's mLan site and find it interesting that the channel count for 88.1 or 96kHz sample rates is reduced by half. Now this is reasonable for an ADAT I/F that is limited to 48kHz. But why is the reduction necessary for a 1394 connection? Seems strange...

I dunno, but a guess might be that the rate of Data transfer in the standard 1394 system is not lage enough?

/ptr