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SCARPYDOOOOO 6 July 2012

I got to listen to 2 q12 monitors positioned in the mid field range and i swear ive never in my life heard any speaker pump out vocals to the clarity level as they did today!

Everything else was great about the speaker, but the vocals were off the freak in charts! Has anyone else used these in a studio and what near field monitors did they run with them?

Thanks...

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pan60 Sat, 07/07/2012 - 13:20

I use to like the old Altecs ( well, still do ), but I don't think they are around many places any more?
And some people just hate coaxial designed speakers.
A well know friend of mine just absolutely hates them, go figure.
not sure how well i would like them in a small room, maybe i'll get a chance to try some one day: )

RemyRAD Sun, 07/08/2012 - 20:33

I worked on a lot of Altec Lansing 604 E's. Their crossover was miserable. The cellular like horn sounding like a bunch of geese honking. Doug Sax of the Mastering Lab improved on the crossover and the actual box design. He introduced those back in the late 1970s as Big Red's, later UREI Introduced a replacement born lessening that honky like sound and further improving the passive crossover and the time alignment between the low and high frequency drivers. I recorded and mixed with all of those yet they were never my favorites. The horns used to drive me bananas.

In the late 1970s when I worked for Media Sound, NYC, the Big Reds were the de facto control room monitors in all four of their control rooms. And that's what all of the Barry Manilow and KOOL and the GANG recordings were recorded and mixed with.

Tannoy also introduced some coaxial speakers. Some folks loved them. I purchased a pair around 20 years ago. They didn't have the same kind of a horn as the Altec Lansing 604 series had. No. But there is was a metal throat that also caused me much distress. So they went back. So I still stick with my JBL 3 way 4311/4312's even though I don't care much for 3 way speakers.

I had actually considered purchasing a pair of Quad Electrostatic speaker panels. But those cannot deliver the sound pressure levels needed in the control room environment without their destruction. Great for home use. You'd think with today's technologies, this would have been improved upon to the point of being practical for control room applications. But all we've gotten is ribbon tweeters. Again in a two-way configuration with the W00FER, placed in a different position. What's with that? Nobody has even attempted to mount a ribbon tweeter in the middle of a W00FER and I don't know why?

Coaxial speakers are great in their concept because they create a single point sound source. The way it should be. I currently have a new speaker design utilizing both W00FER's & tweeters in a cabinet that would have a variable resonance and more closely approximate a single point sound source. Though I have as yet to build the first prototype since my resources and cash flow, currently, is relatively nil. But I believe that this design could revolutionize the far field & midfield speaker market. And no one has tried this either. And with all of these designers out there, I can't believe anybody has been so stupid as to not try this? But people just keep repeating history because they aren't really visionaries.

Where the heck are my glasses?
Mx. Remy Ann David

pan60 Sun, 07/08/2012 - 21:09

I think because of the horn design in most of these they need to be in large rooms.
I have some large EVs with horn and they would drive me nuts in a small setting.
EV and Urei both made some cool ones.
i love the old cellular horns, LOL

I think guy use to use external cross overs and by-amp on those a lot anyway i know we did?

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