it can't hurt to try.

To me the hard part is the writing and the arrangement. Triggering new drums and tracking new guitar and bass shouldn't take more than a day.

I'm intending on having plenty of templates on tap w gates triggers and good sounds on tap for occasions just like this.

I look at questionably recorded material as good source triggers!

Replacement is part of 'mixing' these days I think.

Obviously I know this might not be the approach your taking about, but between audio-to-midi for bass, and the drums triggered you've replaced without re-playing the parts. If you have a DI guitar part as a safety your gold.

+1 on audience not caring about the quality of backing tracks. I've witnessed it hundreds of times.

If you do a solo act with backing tracks, there is 2 sides to this
Either it's gonna perfect because it sounds live anyway or it's gonna clash with other backtracks..

When I played alone live, I made my point to record all my backing and mix them so they sound good live but not too perfect.
Having my own voice as backvocals and me playing the drum and bass was biggest reward for me (even if the assistance didn't noticed.. ) ;)

pcrecord, post: 448316, member: 46460 wrote: If you do a solo act with backing tracks, there is 2 sides to this
Either it's gonna perfect because it sounds live anyway or it's gonna clash with other backtracks..

When I played alone live, I made my point to record all my backing and mix them so they sound good live but not too perfect.
Having my own voice as backvocals and me playing the drum and bass was biggest reward for me (even if the assistance didn't noticed.. ) ;)

I get that part, Mon Ami', but that's not what I'm really talking about... my thought was to try and mix these tracks as if I were mixing it for a record release .... not for my live act. ;)

I get it.

Try one and see if you are proud enough of the result ;)

I have a very different take on this.

Bad recording don't serve your mixing career well or likely (there are exceptions) help you with your chops. Bad recordings in general do you more injustice than good, leading you to think you are onto something that is simply put, never what you would do if it was well recorded in the first place.
The only way it would ever serve you well is if you had a before and after so "the right people" could hear the difference between the original bad and how hard you tried to make it better.

The mass hearing it will never have someone on your side explaining to them, "yeah it sounds like ass but listen to what this guy did to it".

If you are planning to use it to help your business grow, don't put your name on it. If its an exercise, it doesn't help you much because its is full of issues that mess you up more than actually help you. It becomes a big can of worms.

However, if you do it, don't spend a lot of time trying to improve it. Listen to it just enough to get it sorted in your head and mix it quickly. The more you study it, the more you will try and fix a domino effect, for nothing. Find the main focus (likely the vocals) and get those right (upfront and clear). Done.

That's my advice.

Mixing less than stellar-ly recorded tracks is all I do Donny ;)

If you do mess with it, I'd be curious to hear it. Even if you hate it, I'd be curious.

This would be a good problem based learning exercise. Meaning, our recording.org community could do a pretty damn good thread going from identifying cause and effects , improvements that could have been done to make things sound and sit better in the mix, then go into great detail finding ways to fix it in the mix and then master the track.

(EDIT) > , the only people that actually get what we do are those directly attached to the recording process in some way. Everyone else listening is just listening and don't really understand what is going on. Even if we post and talk about it all, those just listening still can't know how amazing you are as an engineer until they actually get involved and try and do something to it as well. And that includes other engineers sitting on the side lines.

imho.

I'm down! It would be a great opportunity to play around with Ozone on the tablet for a fun experiment in tablet mastering via Bluetooth. It would be cool to have some new tracks to mess around with.

That was kinda my intention ... to make it an exercise for RO cats.
Because we are largely a PBL forum, it might be a good opportunity to work on it together, to figure out just why it was bad to begin with and to try to make it sound better through current DAW or analog technology.
I'm happy to take the time to upload upload tracks if you guys want. Thinking that DB would be the best avenue for that as opposed to uploading MP's.
I guess we should Get a general consensus and let me know what you think.
-d

Db is cool with me.

Count me in ! ;)

audiokid, post: 448341, member: 1 wrote: This would be a good problem based learning exercise. Meaning, our recording.org community could do a pretty damn good thread going from identifying cause and effects , improvements that could have been done to make things sound and sit better in the mix, then go into great detail finding ways to fix it in the mix and then master the track.

(EDIT) > , the only people that actually get what we do are those directly attached to the recording process in some way. Everyone else listening is just listening and don't really understand what is going on. Even if we post and talk about it all, those just listening still can't know how amazing you are as an engineer until they actually get involved and try and do something to it as well. And that includes other engineers sitting on the side lines.

imho.

I like this and would love it.

DonnyThompson, post: 448346, member: 46114 wrote: That was kinda my intention ... to make it an exercise for RO cats.
Because we are largely a PBL forum, it might be a good opportunity to work on it together, to figure out just why it was bad to begin with and to try to make it sound better through current DAW or analog technology.
I'm happy to take the time to upload upload tracks if you guys want. Thinking that DB would be the best avenue for that as opposed to uploading MP's.
I guess we should Get a general consensus and let me know what you think.
-d

You win the awesome guy award. I hope I didn't put you on the spot, Donny.

audiokid, post: 448351, member: 1 wrote: You win the awesome guy award. I hope I didn't put you on the spot, Donny.

Nah, it's all good. I'll start exporting tracks later this morning. It'll take me a little while, as I have other irons in the fire, but I'll get it done over the next day or so.
;)