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I've been looking around for alternatives to audio interfaces recently... and with the help of a few mentionable cats here i ran into a few of the Tascam hardware recorders...
such as...
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How do you all feel about this route? Maybe a different sound? Any with experience? anyone with information on the differences?

Also how easy is it to dump a track from a machine like this to pro tools?
thanks in advance to anyone wit some wisdom or opinions

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TheJackAttack Thu, 12/15/2011 - 22:58

The ADC in the HD24XR is very good. The plain HD24 is not as good and it is audible. The HD24XR is not made anymore so that should be a consideration. They are still available used but lifespan will depend significantly on it's treatment. Mine is racked up and has a very large dessiccant package in the case at all times. Twice a year I microwave the dessiccant to make sure it is effective. The ADC is not equal to the latest greatest RME converters but stands close enough to the Fireface generation/Apogee Ensemble generation to be very respectable.

RemyRAD Sat, 12/17/2011 - 08:35

Having come from a broad background of broadcast, studio & live recordings I personally prefer purpose built dedicated devices. Computer interfaces, (depending on manufacturers) can be cool. Unfortunately, we all know that computers, like squirrels, have a mind of their own (or a lack thereof). This frequently can mean that when in the process of recording, it may decide to start digging for nuts. And with that kind of ADD (such as my own) your computer can suddenly shift gears to go off and do something else. Look a chicken! See what I mean? So with a purpose built recorder, it generally can't get confused, distracted or be stopped suddenly in its tracks.

When it comes to the sound of any recorder, most have a certain character of their own. This doesn't necessarily always equate to what's newer is always better but merely different. For example, in the analog days, there were many different brands of recorders. All had their pros and cons. And to add to all of that confusion, you have to also decide what tape you liked the sound (or smell) of. Each tape brand also imparted its own sonic signature. Nothing was better only different. You had to decide which best suit your purposes and your clients. Digital recorders aren't any different. For instance, I too currently utilize ALESIS HD 24 XR's. I also had an original HD 24. They both sound different. I've made perfectly lovely recordings with the original and have no problem utilizing those to this day. So this is sort of like the difference between Ampex & Scotch recording tape to me. I utilized both but personally prefer the sound of Scotch. But for the most part, I really didn't give a damn. That's because, it's more your choice of microphones & the front end preamp that has the greatest influence on what your sonic signature will be. Not so much the converters. You see, back in the early 1980s of digital recording, you simply used with the recorder had. It simply wasn't a concern because you had no choices. So your only real concern was proper recording & mixing technique along with the microphones & console you had before you. They're also weren't any boutique microphone preamps to worry about either because you were just going to use the console. Given those lack of choices that never stopped anybody from churning out hits or even total and complete garbage from a lack of knowledge, experience and/or talent. So your real choice here is boxers or jockeys and will that have any real impact on how people view your performance. So a lot of this decision-making is simply based upon your budgetary constraints and not what's better than something else. I simply don't have any qualms if I'm feeding a Sony PCM F1, Panasonic dat, Ta-Scam DA 88, MOTU 2408, ALESIS HD 24, etc. since I still feed all of those from antiquated (yet still state of the art) API & Neve front ends. And the recordings always remaining glorious sounding. Nevertheless, I still am forced to make recordings sometimes from console/preamps I don't consider to be empirical. Technique and experience makes the definitive difference not the junk you have to work with. It only matters to others based up on their personal preferences and what the marketing hype/specification data indicates to them. I listen to something first before I look at its specifications. Sometimes I'll look at the specification first and wonder what it sounds like realizing the specifications really mean nothing.

Dumping into Pro Fools or any other popular software package is a absolute necessity. If some manufacturer comes up with a " better file format " that's too new and proprietary, I say screw that. Standards must be adhered to or you end up with audio anarchy. Sample rate & bit depth also doesn't mean much to me. That is, unless, someone wants to hand me a $50,000 contract that includes certain specifications. And how often is that happening these days? Just because some sales droid and/or other " expert " recording dweebs tell you you need this that or the other isn't necessarily a justifiable reason to follow dirty advice. So, how much money you got? And for what specific purpose are your requirements? Oh? I see. You want clean, neutral, transparent. So you want a plain white dog, not stinky that has been neutered, right? And that's supposed to ensure you are going to get laid tonight, right? Those that are in the know, know that doesn't guarantee anything.

Pick a card, any card.
Mx. Remy Ann David

MrPhaSe Sat, 12/17/2011 - 19:12

RemyRAD, post: 380841 wrote: So, how much money you got? And for what specific purpose are your requirements? Oh? I see. You want clean, neutral, transparent. So you want a plain white dog, not stinky that has been neutered, right? And that's supposed to ensure you are going to get laid tonight, right? Those that are in the know, know that doesn't guarantee anything.

Pick a card, any card.
Mx. Remy Ann David

(y) very insightful. I applaud your entire response, even though i should have quoted the whole thing....
To answer the question.. I got enough money to spend maybe 5k on a recorder.

I'm tying to set up a professional recording environment. A budget of about 15k