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Remix of old recording - Comments needed

Hi gang.
I know I'm not posting my work often but I thought this was long overdue.
I had a visit from a former customer. He came in as a trio in 2001, it was the second year I started to record.
After a nice conversation and old stories. I went in my archives and found one of his song which is a humorous blues about stinky feet. Nothing serious..
The drums sounded pretty bad, I didn't have everything to make it sound good at the time including good instrument mics and Technics..
Being a good sport and wanting to have fun. I recorded the drums from scratch and remixed the song.

I heard the vocal braking to saturation a few times but it is still a good track to work with.

I'd like you to tell me if there is something wrong, frequencies and dynamics..
Any comments welcome !

[MEDIA=audio]https://recording.org/attachments/les-p…]

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Les Pieds qui pus_Master.mp3 (7.1 MB) 

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ronmac Tue, 10/02/2018 - 13:00

My first impression is that the guitars are panned very wide, leaving a "hole in the middle" that I was waiting to hear filled as the song progressed. Other than that, well done!

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pcrecord Wed, 10/03/2018 - 05:07

ronmac, post: 459228, member: 24337 wrote: My first impression is that the guitars are panned very wide, leaving a "hole in the middle" that I was waiting to hear filled as the song progressed. Other than that, well done!

Interesting. Did the wideness still disturbed you after the bass vocal and drum started ?

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ronmac Wed, 10/03/2018 - 06:18

Listened again this morning, with fresh ears.

First, let me say that I listened to this yesterday as a mixer, not a consumer, and that always leads me to "what should I do to make this track better/different". In that role I always make note of my first impression and work to resolve what I think should change. Since we all have different workflows and objectives it is not surprising that giving a mix to three different engineers will result in five different outcomes. LOL

My listen this morning confirmed to me that I, right or wrong, would still narrow the image of the guitars just a bit. Interestingly, I did not perceive it as much of a difference this morning as yesterday. This proves a few points... first, everything we do is based on our own impression and biases. Second, listening with fresh ears is always a good idea. Also, before I listened I carefully calibrated my monitor setup (Dynaudio/Bryston) to make sure the left/right imaging is accurate and the nominal spl level is correct for my room and comfort level. I do this every morning, as things can change during the previous day as I push faders around and the amp/speakers drift a little from spec. I am far from shiny and new, so I expect that my hearing also fluctuates a bit through the day.

Would changing the mix by a couple of percent here or there make a big difference? Probably not, but I am stuck in a workflow where I react to my first impression and move on from there.

Your mix is good. The song is good. It is in our nature as "tweakers" that we can never leave a good thing alone. :)

Thanks for sharing your music!

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pcrecord Wed, 10/03/2018 - 07:35

ronmac, post: 459253, member: 24337 wrote: Your mix is good. The song is good. It is in our nature as "tweakers" that we can never leave a good thing alone. :)

I think I myself could have mix it differently another day.
More and more of my customers ask for drastic stereo seperation, ex ; having just one guitar playing on one side and no guitar on the other side for a part of a song..
It's kind of a trend these days. I guess I was influenced by this.
Altought, hard L/R panning helps giving space to the vocal and other instruments. It's true that I might have gone overboard here..
Thanks alot for you opinion !
Glad you didn't detect something technicly wrong, freq or others...

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DogsoverLava Tue, 10/09/2018 - 23:31

I had the same thoughts about the separation -- had me thinking more about the haas effect and how you could add a bit more dimensionality to the mix with some subtle tweaks there. And like Chris - some nice slide or lap guitar effects hovering overhead would be cool -- I'm thinking a bit of the Tragically Hip and how they'd treat a song like this. The singer has a great voice -- enormous character in that voice!

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dvdhawk Wed, 10/10/2018 - 15:28

Nice job flying in the new drum tracks, Marco. It still has a very natural feel to it.

The attitude and energy of the lead vocal make me wish I understood French!

Well done!

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