Nivirita, post: 369534 wrote: Looking for Professional Audio Multitrack Mixer Software Platforms, from Trusted companies, like Behringer, Mackie, etc. Please list your sugestions, Appreciate-it!!!

I would suggest revising your concept of "trusted".

bouldersound, post: 369553 wrote: I would suggest revising your concept of "trusted".

Are you saying none can be trusted???

Hi, ...
What are Audio Multitrack Mixer Software Platforms?
Do you mean hardware controllers or DAWs?

Mackie and Behringer are being used in absence of real gear...LOL...
I would not trust them ... Not that they fall apart or break down very soon, but there are more criteria: audio quality, drivers, compatibility, functions, build, support...
Engineering audio is about audio quality. One must consider all components in the chain. Those brands do the job, but wouldn't make me a happy man.
Known is not trusted... and the phrase "trusted quality" brings other names to my mind.
If you give us your budget or what you want to with your setup, we might be able to suggest some better and trusted gear.
:-)

Big K, post: 369575 wrote: Hi, ...
What are Audio Multitrack Mixer Software Platforms?
Do you mean hardware controllers or DAWs?

Mackie and Behringer are being used in absence of real gear...LOL...
I would not trust them ... Not that they fall apart or break down very soon, but there are more criteria: audio quality, drivers, compatibility, functions, build, support...
Engineering audio is about audio quality. One must consider all components in the chain. Those brands do the job, but wouldn't make me a happy man.
Known is not trusted... and the phrase "trusted quality" brings other names to my mind.
If you give us your budget or what you want to with your setup, we might be able to suggest some better and trusted gear.
:-)

A MultiTrack Mixer, Is just like a Studio Hardware Mixing Board Deck, but in its software form, you have a really nice interface (well; most of the time the interface is nice), and you have on that interface the abaility to anaylize, edit, record, as well as to ulimately mix multiple tracks, cuts, samples of music, etc. In a lot of cases producers / masterers utilize multitrack mixing software in conjunction with their hardware studios, along side their vintage equipment, as well as hardware instruments, such as guitars drums, etc.

In some cases; such as mine, you have the production setup using-all software, the only hardware you will see, is computers and lots of flat panel displays, in other words, guys like me; are always looking for the next best latest and greatest thing in software format, especially various full blown operating systems in regards to audio, as well as video development. Also really good software platforms in relation to multitrack mixer software platforms. Havent been having much luck with internet searches for this stuff, most of the results have been for very low end products that you can download from any Tom, Dick, and Haley's website, and you know how that goes-very untrustworthy sources, in mostlly all cases. I find it to minumize the risk in having the ability to download directly from the manufacturers site, especially if the manufacturer makes it a point to not allow there software to be accessed so broadly over the internet, in they; the manufacturer would rather we come directly to their site and download of which of their software produts we need, without running the risk of going to outside sources that clearly in a lot of cases hack the manufacturers software, and fill it full of adware, spwre, etc.

I particularly prefer manufacturers sites that pride themselves on vintage hardware, but have the software platforms associated with their vintage hardware. So again I ask if anyone can suggest manufactures that have the kind of software I'm looking for, but mainly speciallizing in hardware, but with associated software with their hardware products, in regards to Multitrack Mixer Software Platforms. again I feel they are going to be far more trustworthy; so to speak, than those companies that allow cnet.com, brothersoft.com, etc. to get their hands on their software that works with their hardware. Based on the trust issue, I see what you mean, but one has to pick the lessor of the two evils here; I think!

"Guys like you" can't be too cunning, when they work with e.g. Behringer stuff.
So, a nice list of your gear and what you want to do with it would be nice to have.
You find decent software mixer in any good DAW. Maybe you give us a single software as an example of what you want.
I do not know any software that acts just as an itb mixer, all by itself.

Nivirita, post: 369565 wrote: Are you saying none can be trusted???

I'm saying neither brand qualifies as "trusted" by a wide range of professionals. Both make some okay products. Both make quite a bit of junk. Both have had better days, when their manufacturing was in the same country as the designers. Both cater largely to the lower end of the market. If either of them make a DAW I'm not aware of it.

Avid (Pro Tools) is a better example, in spite of my disdain for them. Sony (Vegas, Acid) could be considered trusted, and I like their stuff a lot better than Avid's products.

The whole idea of the post was just that; to find who makes a good multitrack mixer software, and they do exist, as I stated earlier; I just happened to find a couple of low end ones, like, MixPad, MixCraft Studio 5, etc. I guess I was trying to find out If the big hardware guys, had software associated with their hardware products, along the lines of the low end multitrack mixers; I have found, but with better quality. This isnt a battle of who prefers what or who has the best product, thats not why I posted. I am very aware that some of your biggest names out there, can pretty much mess up a hardware product, as well as a software product, I am just trying to find out who makes what I am looking for, so I can judge for my self the quality of their software. So thats why I used the word trusted-I am trying to avoid crappy products, and at the same time I am looking for more sources, as to where I can find the type of software I am looking for.

Mixpad and Studio 5 are just crappy* DAWs and nothing else. Those are lowest entry level for beginners.
I would not recommend them to anybody who wants to do some serious audio work.

If you want to see real powerful editing and mixing, have a look at DAWs like Nuendo, for example.
Those are incredible workhorses with most advanced mixers and superb automation, FX, editing features...
I do films, music productions, game sound and mastering on them... actually anything audio and audio for picture... fast and efficiently...

* not usable for pro audio

In addition to Nuendo, look at Cubase 6, Samplitude, ProTools 9, Audition CS5.5, Presonus StudioLive, Logic, Sonar, and Reaper.

The reason you didn't get the responses you wanted from the beginning is that what you are describing is a standard DAW (digital audio workstation) program. And there are plenty of "guys like you" that work completely ITB (in the box) after the audio is already recorded or simply from samples and VSTi's.

As K stated, what you have been playing with so far don't even come close for professional capability and are designed for home users to get their collective feet wet.

Thanks, guys; this is the kind of input I was looking for, If you got more software product suggestions; keep-um-comin, Thanks again!

Check out Reaper, Digital Performer (what I use) and for just great sounding mixes I have been using the Harrison emulation by Mixbus. Pure analog sound with the older Harrison desk apps.

And i combine that with the UAD-2 card loaded with analog DSP's and AU plugs. Killer sound

Thanks

Thanks Audios

SAC is the ONLY REAL software based solution that will work in pro audio situations. SAC is IT! All digital consoles are, are computers with control surfaces running software. Some sound better, have lower latency, have more I/O compatibility, offer more remote control options than others. Most every digital console developed within the last couple of years has been developed to meet a price point, and not for improved performance. The low end is the low end for a reason. Consoles in the low end do not have the customer support infrastructure that high consoles have. I work for a dealer that sells just about everything, and I can tell you who I would buy from. Who I would buy from would not necessarily be the one I would pic for features or sound quality. You have to do what you have to do. What I can tell you is that mixing from a computer is not all that it is cracked up to be. Just about everyone doing it is doing touch screens and MIDI'd motorized fader modules, etc....in the end, winding up with a bunch of parts instead of a system designed to work together. The first company to make a dedicated hardware control surface and processor for SAC will WIN! Hands down. YMMV.

Just remember, anything software and computer related will always be in a state of flux, will always have stability issues, will not last and will be harder to maintain in the long run, because every time a computer is replaced, new issues arise. The best console manufacturers provide the DSP and modified versions of off the shelf OS's and drivers.

Latency with software, even as good as SAC is, and a cheap computer with a cheap audio I/O card and break out boxes will be an issue. If you do it, do it right, and do it with tried and true solutions. Read the forums of SAC and see what others have had success with.

Pure analog sound....the only way to get that is to use an analog Harrison, and not all of those are desirable. Do not buy into the hype. If there is digital conversion in it, and DSP is processing, analog ain't gonna be heard there. That is not a bad thing. The most desirable traits of analog in the studio are noise and distortion, weak stereo channel separation, wow, flutter, etc, etc. Plus, that is not a standalone app suited for live sound. It is designed to work in the shell of a DAW. It is based on a former shareware application and is quite limited and buggy. Although, it is improving. V2 is out now. As far as UA